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US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Thank you, just to be clear: there is no obstacle to a Protestant sponsoring a child's baptism in the Catholic Church as parent or godparent? Also I think you are right that many Protestants believe their opinions are clearly implicated by scripture, but it should be obvious on reflection that Scripture is not self-interpreting.

> Thank you, just to be clear: there is no obstacle to a Protestant sponsoring a child's baptism in the Catholic Church as parent or godparent? Strictly speaking, there is a distinction between "sponsor" and "witness". The sponsor must be a Catholic, the witnesses can be non-Catholic Christians. However, in my personal experience (having had one child baptised Catholic, and the other will be baptised soon), everyone…

My understanding is there needs to be a reasonable expectation the child would be raised to be Catholic. A typical heuristic is at least one Catholic parent. I guess "be Catholic" in this context means "will go through confirmation" or something to that effect.

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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If things don't go awry, you'll be paying her half of your post-tax income, and vice versa. So what's the concern about paying a quarter? Since you say you can afford it anyway, as you make "quite a lot of money", and millions of people with much less raise children, it seems as trough you don't want desperately want to have kids, but perhaps you like the idea but don't want to spend money on other people in your fam…

> If things don't go awry, you'll be paying her half of your post-tax income I have no intention of getting married, so: No I won't.

> I have no intention of getting married, so: No I won't.

No offense, but that is a silly attitude. Marriage isn't about love, it's a legal contract two parties agree to. It entitles you to rights like power of attorney, ability to make health decisions for each-other, inheritance, etc. In addition, it also has non-trivial tax benefits, especially if one of you isn't working.

Honestly, having kids without getting married is pretty irresponsible in my opinion, simply because of the very important legal benefits that come from marriage.

But whatever, this isn't /r/relationships....

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Right now, children is sort of theoretical for you. That's fine, as it's like that for everybody. Once you have them and have fallen in love with them, you'll find that their happiness is worth working things out with their mother, rather than breaking up. If you can't man up enough to put up with her shit (assuming there is any) and you do break up, the money will be going to your kids, who you'll love, and giving t…

I make a quarter million dollars. No, that money certainly won't be going to my kids. It's utterly ridiculous to pay that amount of money for child support for one child. This is essentially incentivizing my partner to break up with me: "Hey , if you dump him, you get a $60k check for the rest of your life for sitting on your ass." Incidentally, this is far more than she has ever made.

> This is essentially incentivizing my partner to break up with me: "Hey , if you dump him, you get a $60k check for the rest of your life for sitting on your ass." Incidentally, this is far more than she has ever made.

If this is the attitude you have toward your partner then I stand by my other comment. You've got bigger problems with your relationship than just having kids.

> Incidentally, this is far more than she has ever made.

What the fuck does it matter what your partner makes? Your money is her money and her money is yours. You share everything--good and bad. That is what good partnerships are about. You are a team...

But again, I digress. This isn't /r/relationships, but yes, you've got a bad attitude w.r.t. relationships. Best of luck in all your future endeavors...

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Illegal immigrants usually do not (under the table, off the books unskilled labor), and are in the US in large numbers (millions). Not a sleight, just facts.

Not all immigrants are undocumented (what you call illegal). The current US policy by this administration is causing even documented immigrants to reconsider or just give up and leave.

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Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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This is driven by a very simple thing - pension funds and insurance. Back in the day (and in poor countries with no pension funds) people knew that they had to have children because otherwise nobody would support them when they were old and they'd die. Right now people are confident that they will get a pension when they are old, so there is no reason for them to have kids. They consider children as an inconvenience,…

What workers are you thinking of that have a pension besides certain federal/state/municipal employees. The average or median worker in the United States cannot depend on a pension, it is impractical for the vast majority of Americans to consider what we commonly think of as retirement and stopping work. http://time.com/money/4258451/retirement-savings-survey/

I work in film and television. We have pensions.

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Do you know of any good example steady state economies for contrast?

Why does criticizing an impossible assumption put the onus on me to identify economies that do not make that assumption or to envision what such a state of things might look like? Is it not sufficient to refrain from obvious error?

That wasn't criticism, just curiosity. I'd like to have such an example to refer to and thought you might have one.

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Student loans, housing costs, job prospects, healthcare, childcare. People are making a rational decision to avoid children they can’t afford. We as a society need to re-examine the causes of rising costs of essentials so reproduction is no longer financially infeasible.

Interestingly the US fertility rate started declining in 2008, and Canada's hit a peak in 2008 and went down from there. Also interesting: China's fertility rate is apparently lower than the US's. https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&...

Not surprising if you know about the One Child policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy

Re: US Births Dip to 30-yr Low; Fertility Rate Sinks Further Below Replacement Level

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Counterexample?

Systems of water sanitation, unless you want to count cholera and dysentery as losers.

Arguably those don't create winners, because the concept of "win" necessitates triumphing over others.
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