Introducing Surface Book 2 • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by jackmott » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:29 PM UTC

jclardy wrote: post #343

maaaats wrote: post #307

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I have a MacBook Pro and have never used thunderbolt. Why is it a big deal / what do you use it for?

I use it for external GPU and an external TB2 SSD raid array. The thing is, these laptops are starting at $2500, ignoring the base model integrated GPU that is just there for making the starting price attractive (although that one could benefit the most from an eGPU...) It sounds like a technical reason for it being excluded (lacking extra PCI-E lanes) but it is just disappointing on a laptop in the $2.5k-$3k range i…

since they already have a 1060 in the surface, they will only be losing customers with TB2 SSD raid arrays on their laptops I guess.

So like 3 people.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by FireBeyond » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:31 PM UTC

krylon wrote: post #333

$ 99.99 for the ____ing pen? I get that the Surface Book is supposed to be a high-end device, but that is ... far out. Still, as much as I dislike most of their software, I have to admit Microsoft knows how to build some neat hardware. If only it weren't so pricey...

Guessing they're just playing "follow the leader" with the Apple Pencil...

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0C2AM/A/apple-pencil-fo...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by vilts » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

omikun wrote: post #332

alphonsegaston wrote: post #249

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The iPad Pro is better than the Surface in terms of the digitizer, but not as good as Wacom.

Where did you hear this? From my personal experience and watching some youtube reviews from concept artists/illustrators, the Pencil beats Wacom hands down.

Indeed, I switched from Wacom Cintiq to iPad Pro when it came out. So far it's the best drawing experience I've ever had on a digital device.

I also had one of the Surface Pros with ntrig digitizer. It was near impossible to draw properly. Quick sketching is fine, but slow and precise lines were impossible. Cursor just jumped around and was unusable.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by garettmd » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:35 PM UTC

Anyone notice that the pic of the surface book with the display rotated around (like you would if you were switching to tablet mode) doesn't actually follow how it would rotate in real life? The keyboard should be on the bottom, not the top...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by roryisok » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:39 PM UTC

0xFFC wrote: post #303

jsl1212 wrote: post #264

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Yep. I run latest Ubuntu on my Surface Pro 4 and it's great. The touchscreen doesn't work, although there are plenty of custom kernels out there that would fix that.

Oh this laptop was bot detachable and didn’t have touchscreen! Man, I would have bought it in heartbeat. I don’t reason why Microsoft pushes touchscreen anymore. Considering their Win10Phone is dead already as they are the one admit it. So we have detachable Surface Pro which is great. But we can a surface laptop without touchscreen, on it.

There's a surface laptop without a detachable screen, it's called the surface laptop. It does have a touchscreen but if you don't want that just don't touch it. You can even disable it permanently in device manager if you like

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by petecox » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:40 PM UTC

PascLeRasc wrote: post #81

I can't stand when companies say the latest version of a product is "the most powerful one ever". Why would that ever not be the case?

Power is something you want to use less of when constrained by battery life, surely!:)

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by jermaustin1 » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:43 PM UTC

PKop wrote: post #157

MikusR wrote: post #105

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That's how Apple does it.

I think they had enough sense to wait more than 2 generations to say it though.

Either way, would you ever release a new version that wasn't as {positive adjective here}?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by greedo » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:44 PM UTC

santoshalper wrote: post #184

skywhopper wrote: post #66

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

It's a "blog" entry from a corporate VP. What did you expect? That is not the marketing site for the SB2.

And that's the problem. Messaging is something that's always been an issue with MS. Why would you leak/release details about a new product on a blog entry?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by ld00d » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:45 PM UTC

kn0where wrote: post #328

gebeeson wrote: post #208

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That of course would then lead to the Surface Book 4 NT

I'm looking forward to Surface Book 2000

Surface Book ME

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by theodorejb » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:49 PM UTC

garettmd wrote: post #374

Anyone notice that the pic of the surface book with the display rotated around (like you would if you were switching to tablet mode) doesn't actually follow how it would rotate in real life? The keyboard should be on the bottom, not the top...

Actually that photo does match real life. Rather than opening more than 180 degrees, the screen can be popped off as a standalone tablet, then flipped around and reattached to the base.