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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Didn't they already do this long ago? I thought it was a few years ago that they made me install messenger to use messages. That thing was a little too... cowboy... with all those bubbles splattering all over my screen. I uninstalled Facebook Messenger to save my sanity and haven't conversed via messages for years.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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As far as I know it's not supported on iOS. Even if Chrome had push notification on iOS I can't think of any logical reason to build a push notification inside Chrome if I were Facebook. You think Chrome is open web, but it's not. It's an app built by Google. If Facebook were to depend on Chrome push notification (which by the way doesn't even exist but for the sake of discussion let's say it does hypothetically), it…

I'm not sure that's true; Facebook are keen users of serviceworkers and the Facebook web app provides push notifications on Chrome in Android using just that mechanism.

Why do people keep saying "Chrome supports push on Android" to criticize my comment which says "iOS chrome doesn't support push"? It feels like talking to a wall almost.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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As far as I know it's not supported on iOS. Even if Chrome had push notification on iOS I can't think of any logical reason to build a push notification inside Chrome if I were Facebook. You think Chrome is open web, but it's not. It's an app built by Google. If Facebook were to depend on Chrome push notification (which by the way doesn't even exist but for the sake of discussion let's say it does hypothetically), it…

What you're saying is just factually incorrect. It is an open standard https://w3c.github.io/push-api/ currently supported by both Firefox and Chrome. Microsoft has also started implementing it in Edge https://twitter.com/jacobrossi/status/735153689501958144 . Additionally, Facebook already uses it today.

Tell me what's factually incorrect about "Chrome doesn't support push on iOS". Want me to spell it out for you? Here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34588506/ios-web-notifica...

I am amazed how many people on this thread are attacking me saying "Android Chrome supports push notification" when I said "Chrome doesn't support push on iOS". Are you even listening to what I say?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

Sure. In my case that legacy burden is Facebook. I work for a living and carry a work phone that is managed due to compliance requirements. I could pop on Facebook and check the occasional message. Facebook makes the mobile web experience as user hostile as possible, but it's sort of works. Now I'm stuck, as are about 20,000 of my coworkers.

It's really interesting to me how controversial contrarian opinions to Facebook actions are in this forum. The parent has bounced up and down vote wise quite a bit.

FB is a real lightning rod topic.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

#376
I have the Messenger app. When I first installed it, it asked me to do the following:

- Enable Notifications

- Enable access to my Contacts

- Add my phone number to my FB account

I respectfully refused to allow any of this. Every time that I opened the Messenger app, I got a pop-up asking me to enable Notifications. I enabled notifications, then went into my iOS settings and disabled them. This stopped the pop-ups, but now I see a red warning symbol on my Messenger "Me" icon in the lower right which wants me to enable Notifications once and for all. I also see another red icon on the People icon which says that I need to sync my contacts.

I'm disappointed in the direction that Facebook is turning the Messenger app towards. They seem to be desperate for these three options to be enabled.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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That's how it works for apps targeting API 23 (Marshmallow).

Right, but the fb app targets much older APIs? And/or how would you know before installing?

I think it asks you when you install the app only if it targets an older API. Not certain though.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Behaviour like this is why we need efforts like purple-facebook[0]

I wish to be able to host purple-facebook on a server and throw a web UI in front of it. It won't be as complete as messenger, but at least basic chat will work without having to download a sneaky app.

0: https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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So much complaining. The web app version is crap, of course they want to move people over to the app. Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app. Its just good business sense and seeing that 99.9999999999% of Facebook users already have Messenger installed, its a non issue.

Facebook once changed all e-mail addresses to @facebook.com

Facebook can sync with your contacts and make a huge jumbled mess

Facebook app drains battery

Facebook app demands elevated privileges that it shouldn't need

Facebook may or may not be listening to your microphone

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