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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I suspect it's less about solving problems and more about breaking out of that web browser sandbox to siphon up more of that juicy, juicy data.

Yep. Thank god for runtime permissions, at least.

Like those controlled in the iOS Privacy Setting page?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

#103
i refuse to install the mobile app because there is no way to stop people from calling you on messenger. There is no way to turn it off or have some kind of do not disturb. If someone wants to mess with you they can just keep calling you and your only choice is to block them and remove them from your friends list

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Chrome and Firefox currently support push notifications with GCM https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API and this is a standard API other vendors are free to implement

As far as I know it's not supported on iOS. Even if Chrome had push notification on iOS I can't think of any logical reason to build a push notification inside Chrome if I were Facebook. You think Chrome is open web, but it's not. It's an app built by Google. If Facebook were to depend on Chrome push notification (which by the way doesn't even exist but for the sake of discussion let's say it does hypothetically), it…

What you're saying is just factually incorrect. It is an open standard https://w3c.github.io/push-api/ currently supported by both Firefox and Chrome. Microsoft has also started implementing it in Edge https://twitter.com/jacobrossi/status/735153689501958144. Additionally, Facebook already uses it today.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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So if its main selling point is being ubiquitous, why the fuck wouldn't they force everyone to the same platform?

I have the opposite question: if its main selling point is being ubiquitous, why the fuck wouldn't they want to maximize the number of ways users can access it so that it stays, you know, ubiquitous?

Yup, because they're idiots and it's moves like this that will allow an upstart to steal all the market.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

Not to mention that Facebook has intentionally changed the email address of contacts in people's phones without asking them [0].

This does not change my mind about banning all Facebook apps from my devices, it just means even less Facebook for me.

[0] http://www.cnet.com/how-to/facebook-changed-your-e-mail-addr...!

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

I'd agree with you if this was a company that actually sheds legacy tech gracefully, but Xcode can't handle our scale.
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