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Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by throwaway27448 »

basch wrote: post #258
throwaway27448 wrote: post #108

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I thought that brave was caught injecting affiliate links. That alone makes it worse than anything mozilla has done. Edit: https://old.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/1ebbeas/why_...

ill be in the strong minority here, and it should be opt-in, but if theres no affiliate link, i would be ok with my tiny marketshare browser capturing the extra. less ethical for them to be replacing other peoples affiliate links, but they are also blocking ads ... so, not exactly the most purely ethical product in the world anyway.

I would much rather just pay the browser maker directly rather than it subtly doing strange things without letting me know.

> so, not exactly the most purely ethical product in the world anyway.

Ads are hardly an example of an ethical product to begin with, hah.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by Forgeties79 »

charcircuit wrote: post #308
Forgeties79 wrote: post #307

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1) YouTube is owned by Google and their entire revenue model is in alignment with how Google does things, which ublock origin interferes with. 2) Manifest v3 is Google’s, not YouTube’s, project.

Manifest v3 doesn't stop ad blockers. In fact the chromium team worked together with ad block developers to adjust the design of Manifest v3 to better allow for them to be implemented.

Yeah chromium “helped” AdGuard specifically insofar as they agreed to restrictions. There’s a filter cap. It dilutes the efficacy of adblockers.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by TiredOfLife »

vachina wrote: post #182
fg137 wrote: post #137

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Most (real world, not HN) users don't really notice any difference between MV2 and MV3 based extensions.

MV3 won't (and will not) block Youtube ads properly. There's the entire point of removing MV2.

It does.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by Havoc »

skybrian wrote: post #211
Havoc wrote: post #193

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The headline is correct. The popular ones like uBO are 100% dead on Chrome thanks to googles coercion. They didn't just "switch". They had to fundamentally change how they block ads and the new version the adtech company forced upon everyone...drumroll...is less effective at blocking ads. What a coincidence! Per uBlock: >uBOL will be less effective at dealing with websites using anti-content blocker or minimizing web…

uBlock Origin Light is still pretty good though. Maybe it's good enough for most people?

That presumably was the point. Move the goal post but only incrementally and so much that people will tolerate it

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by no-name-here »

GeekyBear wrote: post #56
whitepoplar wrote: post #18

A lot of people have been very vocal about this. I use uBlock Origin Lite and haven't noticed a difference between it and uBlock Origin. Am I missing something?

> For uBlock Origin users on Chrome, there’s uBlock Origin Lite. However, the Lite version “allows some tracking, its blocklist is a fraction of what the original blocked, and it can't perform the dynamic filtering that made the original effective,” https://www.pcmag.com/news/googles-next-chrome-update-will-f...

Are there any URLs where you actually saw any difference?

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by dust-jacket »

hyperbovine wrote: post #185
glenstein wrote: post #174

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This is confidently repeated but extremely misleading claim that seems to pop up ad nauseam in the comment sections. They spend more now on development than they ever have in their history, and the CEO spending is something like 1.6% of the budget, which I don't love, but which is not enough to sustain the narrative of all the money being siphoned into executives. They also break down spending into a pie chart of dif…

1.6% is insane though. That would be like Google, Apple, or MSFT paying their CEO $4-6 billion a year.

Except it's nothing like that, because the numbers are so different.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by dbbk »

Havoc wrote: post #364
skybrian wrote: post #211

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uBlock Origin Light is still pretty good though. Maybe it's good enough for most people?

That presumably was the point. Move the goal post but only incrementally and so much that people will tolerate it

I think you are overthinking it. If Chrome actually wanted to ban ad blockers they could just do it.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by jdiff »

dbbk wrote: post #367
jdiff wrote: post #191

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An expansion rather than just a contradiction would be welcome. In what way is it not true?

Ad blockers work fine when upgraded to the new extension spec

They do not. They operate at a reduced level of functionality that does not match previous capabilities. uBlock Origin would never have a separate Lite version if that was not the case. Nobody would care about a new version of the WebExtensions manifest if that weren't the case.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by munksbeer »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #16

Firefox is the only sane option. It’s not perfect but it’s better than the alternatives. Chromium forks are at the mercy of Google doing everything they can to stop ad blocking. Firefox forks are often maintain by just “some dude”. If they decide they don’t want to maintain it anymore, it’s done. If everyone switches to a fork and then Firefox goes away because nobody is using the browser anymore, it’s done.

I've just realised how infrequently I visit regular websites these days. Everything is trashed, popups, cookie requests, ads splattered everywhere.

I read some blogs that get linked from hn. I read some reddit subs. And I use LLMs for "search" and questions.

Whenever I do have to go back to the regular web it is horrible.

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