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Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by drnick1 »

esskay wrote: post #20
ramijames wrote: post #8

Use Firefox. It's an excellent browser and needs your support.

Just a shame its a tiny bit slower than chromium based browsers still (the ui, not the web page rendering), and you dont have to take my word for it, a web search for something like 'firefox sluggish compared to chrome' will back this up too as I've tried switching multiple times but always end up back on a chromium variant because the firefox ui just doesn't feel like an upgrade. Personally I've just given up trying…

> a tiny bit slower

This is no longer the case, at least not uniformly. My Speedometer 3.1 results are:

- Chromium: 30.0 (± 1.2)

- Firefox: 32.1 (± 1.6)

Using the latest browser version on Arch Linux.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by vachina »

fg137 wrote: post #137
nicce wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most would not consider MV3 versions as ”adblockers” anymore.

Most (real world, not HN) users don't really notice any difference between MV2 and MV3 based extensions.

MV3 won't (and will not) block Youtube ads properly. There's the entire point of removing MV2.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

dang wrote: post #148
GeekyBear wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension" really doesn't tell a general audience what is happening here. No wonder it gained little notice.

There have been quite a few threads about it recently - unfortunately I don't have time to dig up links at the moment. (also, 450+ comments is not little notice!)

Previous link is referenced in this submission as a source, and was updated with the same info that was included in this submission. Same discussion.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by hyperbovine »

glenstein wrote: post #174
maxloh wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Mozilla allocates far too much of their budget to executive compensation, which has led to the layoff of many Firefox maintainers, including the entire Servo team. A self-respecting hacker would choose a piece of tech that is well-maintained, not one that only recently added profile support after all these years, or one that still offers an ancient bookmark and history UI.

This is confidently repeated but extremely misleading claim that seems to pop up ad nauseam in the comment sections. They spend more now on development than they ever have in their history, and the CEO spending is something like 1.6% of the budget, which I don't love, but which is not enough to sustain the narrative of all the money being siphoned into executives. They also break down spending into a pie chart of dif…

1.6% is insane though. That would be like Google, Apple, or MSFT paying their CEO $4-6 billion a year.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by jdiff »

maxloh wrote: post #168
_flux wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression MV3 is stricly less capable in terms of blocking ability than MV2?

Yeah. MV3 is a faster but less capable version. With MV2, every request must be filtered with slow, JIT, garbage-collected JavaScript code. In MV3, filtering is handled by native browser code using the list provided by extensions. UserScripts could be used to modify the DOM, but that requires power users to manually enable it. There is a limit on how large the list can be, depending on the browser.

JavaScript really isn't that slow. JIT compilation can wind up faster than AOT compilation. And much of the APIs called by JavaScript is natively-implemented browser code. JavaScript is faster than C# yet people implement games in C# (not the engine cores, but that's a very similar situation to JS) and don't bat an eye.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by notatoad »

_flux wrote: post #147
Legend2440 wrote: post #92

Bad headline. Popular ad blockers have already switched to MV3, and MV2 has already been disabled for all users.

I was under the impression MV3 is stricly less capable in terms of blocking ability than MV2?

that is theoretically true. but i switched to the v3-compatible ublock origin lite a year ago and i've noticed essentially no difference in the performance. all the ads are blocked, just like they were with the v2-compatible adblocker.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by jdiff »

spankalee wrote: post #180
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Secure for whom?

Browser users. Pre Mv3 extensions were a huge vector for malware. My in-laws were hit by that.

You can write malicious MV3 extensions. The changes' stated reason was performance, not security.

Re: Google Chrome update will close the door on ad blockers

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Post by carlosjobim »

haritha-j wrote: post #65

i keep hoping google will stop giving me reasons to switch ,because i can't be bothered to move all my passwords and stuff over, but every year they keep making it harder. Likewise, I desperately want to stay on windows because of anticheat, but every year they keep making it harder.

It takes two mouse clicks to import bookmarks, cookies and passwords from one browser to another.
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