Live data from Hacker News

Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

fuelarc.com

361–370 of 728 posts

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#361
post #109

This is crony capitalism.

What should we call it when the other side does things in the opposite direction? https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/wa-legisl... Punitive legislation? Lawfare? Crony capitalism but for the other companies?

Do you have evidence Ford and GM bribed their way to getting that law passed

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#362
post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump isn't a free market ideologue and never has been. I'm not sure what you expected. He didn't conceal his viewpoints; if you are surprised, I think you weren't paying much attention.

I don’t know about markets but he claimed to be a free speech ideologue. But then he bought twitter and proved otherwise.

I don't believe Trump bought Twitter.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, OP is referring to the fact that the companies that are big enough to be subject to the EU DSA's rules about platforms are all American. So any fines handed down for violations of the DSA are exclusively to American big tech firms. The rejoinder is that the rules apply to everyone, it just happens that the companies that are subject are American.

the USB-C legislation was pretty clearly directed at Apple alone

...and now we get stupid overly complex and fragile connectors on things like laptops instead of simple and robust barrel plugs.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#364

Ah yes, the "free market" at work! Also a friendly reminder that all these tariffs are being made possible by a "state of emergency" declared by Trump because of fentanyl coming from Canada and China. Otherwise, only Congress would have the power to impose tarriffs. So shall we just be honest and say we're heading towards a centrally planned economy, China style?

That we should be so lucky. Chinese Central planning actually gets useful stuff done, little hope of that from this lot

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was always about power accumulation. Integrity, honesty, and principles is literally what they mean by the word "woke" when they harass people for being it.

> Integrity, honesty, and principles is literally what they mean by the word "woke" No it isn't, and saying things like this just adds noise. What they mean by the word "woke" is a worldview that delegitimises the things they aspire to or worked hard for (status based on power based on individual agency), and prioritises other forms of social currency (victimisation by external forces) in a way they find performative…

Didn't you just say exactly the same thing as the parent comment?

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

That's pure speculation, but quite possible. Corruption is nothing new in Washington. The real question is whether people support bringing auto manufacturing back to America. As always, people who like the policy/candidate/official will overlook the corruption, while people who dislike the policy/candidate/official complain about it. The people who demanded evidence about Biden will accept speculation about Trump, ju…

The real question isn't whether people support bringing auto manufacturing back to America. It's already in America. Only 50% of sold cars are imported.

So the question is whether these tariffs will increase the number of cars manufactured in this country, and whether that increase is an acceptable trade-off for making the cars sold more expensive.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#367
post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like launching a private $500k membership club for elites: https://www.the-independent.com/life-style/donald-trump-jr-m... True to their word!

That's the wrong Trump.

That's not an argument they accepted when Hunter Biden was selling some paintings, and this is far more straightforwardly corrupt than that.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#368
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a coincidence that the only company that currently fits the criteria is Tesla then. Everyone else can start rearranging their supply chains and building new factories to comply. Easy peasy right? Be up and running in a few weeks, at most, right?

I think Honda already has like 75% American parts in the cars they produce in Indiana. It was actually listed on the Acura ILX I bought from them awhile back.

Genuinely curious why? I live in the USA, but nowhere near any place they make cars. So I have not much interest in helping those folks, fine though I'm sure they are. I'd rather have a Japanese made Honda because it'll likely have higher reliability.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump was never actually a "free market" idealogue. And the GOP officially dropped any mentions of it from their party platform a few years ago. If anything, they are doing exactly what they promised. They were against globalism and elites and international agreements and governance and they are being true to their words.

If I was forced to say one good thing about the guy, it's that he is quickly and faithfully delivering on his campaign promises, moreso than any other president that ever served in my lifetime. He's blasting right through the Project 2025 checklist and doing exactly what he said he'd do. Those campaign promises are destructive, thoughtless, cruel, and self-serving, but he said he'd do them, was elected, and then subs…

He disavowed Project 2025, so really, he lied to us during the campaign.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

#370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you’re stuck with trying to overplay how significant J6 was. Even if it was considered by the participants to be a coup, it’s irrelevant because it simply did not have the manpower, or any chance at taking out all of the branches of government to a significant degree. Even if all of Congress and SCOTUS was killed, there is a line of succession (created in case of nuclear war) which states would then follow. The c…

Killing multiple members of Congress wasn't improbable outcome of J6. Do you agree or disagree. Let's set aside everything else. Do you at least conceed that politicians lives were on the line.

I really do think that was an improbable outcome.
Post reply on HN