I am really not being overdramatic or hyperbolic when I say this watch sounds like the exact kind of smart device I want in my life. Just ordered the b&w one. Very excited
Two new PebbleOS watches
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Same here. Based in the EU, I was ready to buy one on day one, but when I saw the prices listed only in USD I had to stop right there. Just the shipping alone would be $25, plus the uncertainty of duty fees. I hope to see an EU store soon — with prices in EUR, low-cost shipping, and all fees already factored in.
International shipments will not be sent from the USA; they'll be shipped directly from Asia. The comment is in reference to your own countries - they may charge tariffs.
I will be visiting China later this year, any chance I can get one while I'm there via something like TaoBao to save on tax and shipping?
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#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
That reads to me as what they'll do if the import tariff situation changes, not if the company changes the price themselves. Which seems like a reasonable thing to say given the massive uncertainty around US economic policy at the moment.
I think it's reasonable too, but it also means I don't want to pony up $150 now to potentially have the seller renege and (hopefully) refund me later. I can make use that $150 between then and now.
They have it very clearly written before you check out that you can receive a full refund anytime before it ships. You have to check a box saying you acknowledge this before completing your purchase.
I find what they’re doing very transparent from top to bottom. If you’re worried about it, don’t buy one. But if you’re worried they’re going to pull the rug out from under you, I don’t think you need to.
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If tariffs change dramatically, we will pass these costs along to you and require further payment, even for US orders. Under the "What if the tariff situation changes?" section on https://store.repebble.com/ I was excited and about to purchase one until I saw this "We might not ship the device unless you pay us more" thing. I get that the economy is very up in the air right now in the US, but sucks that seemingly o…
It's good of them to consider this and be transparent, but I don't consider tariffs to be part of the price. The price is the amount the seller gets, not the amount they collect and remit to the government.
They have always been part of the price.
In the past tariffs were implemented or modified with a long notice period so businesses could plan ahead.
Now they are being added or changed at the whim of a tantrum with no notice, so of course prices might need to also reflect that at short notice.
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#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
MSRP of 3x COGS is a pretty common rule of thumb for hardware. Have to leave room for distribution, software, R&D, returns, SG&A, etc. End of the day, it's probably still only 30-40% gross margin -- less than half of a good SaaS company. Hardware is (indeed!) hard.
But then how could you call that 100 profit in any way? If you made at most like 30-50?
You are conflating two different types of profit.
Gross profit = sales or service revenue less the expenses directly related to producing that revenue (this does not include backoffice functions, R&D, rent, etc.)
Net profit, which is the total revenue of the business less all expenses of the business (so, this includes R&D, rent, and the "backoffice" like HR, finance, legal, etc.)
Larger businesses with multiple business segment may account for gross profit separately for each business segment, but the business only ever calculates one net profit item.
There's also unit profit, which is essentially gross profit but at the level of a single unit of goods or services (for services, a unit is usually a customer contract, for recurring services it would be each period of the contract). Unit profit is generally the revenue from that specific unit less the costs directly associated with producing that revenue. Most companies don't calculate unit profit as generally it's not meaningful unless you sell high-value items, like automobiles or planes.
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#366Looks fun!
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#367Can you go running with your watch and earphones and listen to music without a phone?
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#368Where are the ai features
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#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's reasonable too, but it also means I don't want to pony up $150 now to potentially have the seller renege and (hopefully) refund me later. I can make use that $150 between then and now.
By that logic the watch is a non-essential luxury good so you probably should use the $150 you have now in a more productive manner regardless of potential futures.
This is dumb. You could argue this for any non-essential purpose. Why even say it?
Re: Two new PebbleOS watches
#370Finally.. a hybrid amart watch, that also from Pebble! This is great, the only other hybrid smartwatch I have ever seen was from Fossil and that was quite a few years ago.