How much of the "Rebound of International Immigration" is the result of migrants being bussed to New York from the southern border?
The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
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Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#362The crime question of NYC is incredibly controversial, and a consensus is that crime is barely up, and where it's up, it's pandemic-related and back to "historical norms".
There are two ways to gather crime stats: NYPD reporting them, surveys.
Here's a problem with the former: the stats are easy to game: how people are charged, which crimes are responded to, and which reports are taken are all subject to adjustments. Anyone who's tried to get the police to file a report knows: you need to sometimes persuade.
Then you have the DA. In Manhattan, Alvin Bragg was elected on a platform of de-incarceration. That means that he believes the 'carceral system' disproportionately punishes the poor and POC and further tears them from their communities. In his Day 1 essay, he outlines what he did: look the other way at property crimes such as shoplifting, and low level muggings and the like. He won't charge, and the police aren't going to stick their necks out for a suspect that's not getting punished (charges dropped or declined to prosecute).
I'm happy to pull some stats from articles I saved that prove this. I saved them because it's incredibly unpopular (it's viewed as a 'right wing talking point' historically which renders it false prima facie). I can tell you anecdotally the aggression is something I haven't seen ever, mostly from vagrant types that live in stations and live a life of freedom to punch, smoke, defecate and worse. I know of physical assaults in mid town I hadn't heard about in decades, and I've seen hairy situations during rush hour that haven't existed in my entire time here.
Are people fleeing? That's an easier debate. The city has a cycling in of students, new grads and internationals, and a cycling out of marrieds, and the terminally fed-up with communal living and loud crowded commutes.
But the city won't die.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not a great example. One is a single payer system funded by workers and the other is government welfare. Plus, the elderly can be on both programs simultaneously. If anything, this is an example of money influencing politics since the people who have been paying those taxes for Medicare are more likely to donate to politicians than people who require Medicaid.
> If anything, this is an example of money influencing politics since the people who have been paying those taxes for Medicare are more likely to donate to politicians than people who require Medicaid. That is what I wrote, the elderly have more political power. The same legislature that allocates society’s resources towards healthcare for people age 65+ also chooses to allocate less resources to people who happen to…
"That is what I wrote"
Could you point that out? I saw that the elderly had power - not the wealthy. Many elderly are also poor. Much of the political influence on Medicare comes from those who are working as they near retirement. For example, talks about raising the required age do not affect those already receiving it, but future recipients. Those are the people involved. The people receiving it could care less since the already have their's.
The reason the poor recieve less is because it's not single payer and is funded by other taxes. The general population (voters) feels that the vare minimum is all they deserve (for better or worse, that's how it is).
Again, there is a Medicare tax because it is a non-means-tested single payer system. There is no Medicaid specific tax because it is intended for a small minority of indignant individuals. As with other welfare programs, it paid for out of the general taxes and nothing specific.
It's a money and voter base issue. Yeah, that can be correlated with being old, but there's more to it.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Have you ever actually lived in any metropolitan area outside New York? Yes, and I've spent a lot of time in many cities. > A lot of cities (both in the US and around the world) have better environments for each of the things you stated there, but New York is somewhat unique in that it is good for all of them. It's just not true. For example, name another city in the US that has arts anything like NY: fine arts, ja…
This is actually interesting, because your list includes a lot of things that were invented/developed in New York. The New York arts: * If you're looking for the Broadway experience, you won't find it anywhere but Broadway (West End sometimes tries). If you want to define theater a little more broadly, though, there are a lot of options. West End is a different beast, but I think it's actually a bigger scene. For oth…
> Like in most arts, New York has the big spectacle (the Met Opera and Carnegie Hall), but in classical music it has a lot less less depth.
Pull up the classical music listings in NY and in any of those other cities, or all of those other cities combined. It's really not true in any sense. Let's not forget all the musicians in NY, the top music school (Julliard), etc etc etc.
> In terms of old artworks, New York has the biggest collection of old works in the US, but Paris, Barcelona, London, and Rome are all huge and probably more notable. In terms of new art, LA is the place to be (in the US).
I'm pretty sure that if you want to be an artist - making 'new art' - NY is the place to be, probably in the world. But yes, some other global cites in Europe and Asia are good too. Of course Europe has more 'old art' - that's where much of it came from.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reported crimes. Keep in mind NYPD had its budget cut by billions of dollars and lost record numbers of officers over the same period. Part of accurate crime statistics is actually finding an officer to report a crime to and then them giving you the time of day. And that's if you haven't given up on the city already and aren't "mindin' yo own business". I lived in NYC from 1984 through 2021 and I can tell you unequiv…
There is an easy way to get around the "reported crimes" issue. Look at murders. Dead bodies will not be hidden. And murders are also showing returns close to historic lows. Also, the cities people are moving to have much higher per capita crime than NYC (nearly every mid to major US city has much higher per capita crime than NYC because NYC is incredibly safe for a US city). Here are the numbers (from July...this is…
No you can not just look at murders and declare that over all crime is down because murder is down.
Looking at cities that do not have the same reporting problem that these large cities with a certain political bent you can see that murder does not track with non-violent crime aka property crime and only has a loose correlation to other violent crimes.
it is entirely possible for Theft, robbery, Rape, etc to be increase while murder is decreasing.
Further according to U.S. Department of Justice’s Bureau of Justice Statistics issued in March 2023, between 34% and 58% of violent crimes were reported to police. For property crimes, the percentage reported to police was between 28% and 44%.[1] It may seem add on only 34% of violent crime would be reported, but we have seen many reports in recent years of police treating victims like criminals in the first place so many people will just move on and never involve the police even with violent crime.
Then there is the reported 90,000+ package thefts [2] that occur that NYPD does not put on their comstat figures they release as these are considered minior offenses, but have a real impact on daily life (aka broken windows)
[1] https://www.westsiderag.com/2023/07/09/column-how-many-uws-c...
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/19/nyregion/package-theft-ea...
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is actually interesting, because your list includes a lot of things that were invented/developed in New York. The New York arts: * If you're looking for the Broadway experience, you won't find it anywhere but Broadway (West End sometimes tries). If you want to define theater a little more broadly, though, there are a lot of options. West End is a different beast, but I think it's actually a bigger scene. For oth…
> Like in most arts, New York has the big spectacle (the Met Opera and Carnegie Hall), but in classical music it has a lot less less depth. Pull up the classical music listings in NY and in any of those other cities, or all of those other cities combined. It's really not true in any sense. Let's not forget all the musicians in NY, the top music school (Julliard), etc etc etc. > In terms of old artworks, New York has…
The top music school in the world is Curtis in most musicians' opinions. I'm sure you can find some ranking site that puts Juilliard at the top, and it is definitely in the top 10 (many people put it at #2), but Curtis has by far the best reputation and the most competitive audition process. Colburn (on the west coast) is often also considered up there with Curtis depending on the instrument.
Juilliard is probably the top drama school in the world, however. Also, Manhattan School of Music may be the best jazz school.
Finally, what "listings" are you referring to? I have never seen a good listing of classical music performances anywhere I have lived, including New York, that wasn't essentially word-of-mouth.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If anything, this is an example of money influencing politics since the people who have been paying those taxes for Medicare are more likely to donate to politicians than people who require Medicaid. That is what I wrote, the elderly have more political power. The same legislature that allocates society’s resources towards healthcare for people age 65+ also chooses to allocate less resources to people who happen to…
"That is what I wrote" Could you point that out? I saw that the elderly had power - not the wealthy. Many elderly are also poor. Much of the political influence on Medicare comes from those who are working as they near retirement. For example, talks about raising the required age do not affect those already receiving it, but future recipients. Those are the people involved. The people receiving it could care less sin…
> I saw that the elderly had power - not the wealthy.
Multiple groups can have varying amounts of power. In this case, I am using the fact that one group is getting a better benefit than another group as proof that the group getting the better benefit has power. Why else would they have it, and why else would those that do not have go without?
> The reason the poor recieve less is because it's not single payer and is funded by other taxes. The general population (voters) feels that the vare minimum is all they deserve (for better or worse, that's how it is).
This is my point. Voters skew older, and providing healthcare to the poor at least equivalent to Medicare is not a priority.
> Again, there is a Medicare tax because it is a non-means-tested single payer system.
This is incorrect. Medicare premiums get more and more means tested every year.
https://www.ncpssm.org/documents/medicare-policy-papers/medi...
Even Social Security is means tested, look up bend points in the benefit formula.
And at the end of the day, all taxes are fungible. Government received money and pays money for benefits. Who gets how much is a political exercise.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
Covid maybe in part but it’s mainly because of the demands that enforcing laws must stop by activists and certain political organizations. So crime is up and the city looks shabby and there’s drugged out zombies and homeless everywhere. So people leave. It’s what happened in the 1960/70’s - lots of political changes made cities hospitable to crime and people left. As cities managed to become nice again, people moved…
Which specific laws are not being enforced and which specific political organizations caused this?
Sure if you could clarify specifically what you mean.
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's still the city. The metro area is wider, things like Jersey City and Westchester etc.
Jersey City is in the New York metro area, Staten Island is not.
>Staten Island is not.
As Wolfgang Pauli said after reviewing a paper, "That is not only not right; it is not even wrong".
(And if you are thinking of claiming that Staten Island's lack of a bridge or tunnel connection to the rest of the city is a disqualifier, please don't bother.)
Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City
#370I live in NYC. The problem is that there’s literally 0 housing. That’s it. Literally so many people want to move here, but you look on all of streeteasy on a given day and there’s like 500 apartments. In a city of millions. Sure you can pay more and get something. But it used to be that you traded a lot of quality of life (in unit washer dryer, dishwasher, ac, no walkups, cars, space, etc) for a lower price and the s…
This would make sense if the population growth was increasing but at a slower rate. But, the population is actively declining. Somehow, 5.3% of people went from having housing to leaving, so I don’t think housing is the only story here.
A home getting turned into an airbnb or a city pied-à-terre for a a rich playboy reduces the population but does not improve the housing crisis