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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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evan_ wrote: post #339
logicallee wrote: post #294

Can anyone recommend an insurer where can I take out an insurance policy that covers against this sort of thing and any other weird and random spookie stuff at a distance, in order to cover medical costs and any quality of life issues that result? Some sort of literal insurance policy would make me feel better after reading stories like this. It probably wouldn't be too expensive, people tend to inflate risks based o…

Wouldn’t just regular medical/vision insurance cover this? Or temporary disability insurance

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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by kylebenzle »

endgame wrote: post #263
rainsford wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR. That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at…

> That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story That's an interesting perspective, and reminds me a bit of the "libertarian paradise" at the end of http://bitsim.beepboopbitcoin.com/ . But the fact that it's framed more as a dunk than as genuine sympathy for those affected reminds me of other anti-crypto reporting like "Line Go Up" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g ). Which makes it real…

Molly White has made a career out of mocking crypto bros, she'll have a hay day with this one!

https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by ryukoposting »

samspenc wrote: post #6

I wonder how much they charged and made in ticket revenue. They couldn't even hire stage and lighting professionals to determine the right amount of UV and lighting at a conference hosting hundreds or thousands of folks?!?! > On social media, some suspect photokeratitis — damage to the eye caused by UV exposure. If that’s what caused the Apes’ agony, they likely won’t be blind forever: it’s a temporary condition. Peo…

It was more like thousands of folks, based on other comments.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by userbinator »

sanderjd wrote: post #300
userbinator wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? If you see clear tubes emitting a light blue glow, close your eyes and get away ASAP. One of the few positive things about the pandemic may be that it's educated lot more people on what UVC lamps look like, as they're often used --- away from people --- for sterilisation purposes.

What? I've seen lots of tubes that may or may not have been clear, I really don't know, emitting light blue glows. Like, I used to go into Spencer's at the local mall a couple decades ago... I would have no clue what the difference is here.

They're made of a distinctively clear quartz glass (used because regular glass is quite effective at blocking UVC), and you can see the filaments at the ends. Hopefully you won't have to ever experience looking at a lit UVC tube, but they appear very different from regular fluorescents.

The comment here has a link to a previous incident of this happening, which shows what UVC tubes look like: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170902

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by codetrotter »

qingcharles wrote: post #360
codetrotter wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you write a random string and save it on a blockchain, which becomes the NFT. From there, you can use a lookup table to map the NFT to a URL that links to an image that's stored on the owner's server The way which they are mapped to images vary from NFT to NFT. But let's look at Bored Ape Yacht Club specifically. Collection https://opensea.io/collection/boredapeyachtclub Pick a random bored ape. For example #1337.…

Retrieving that image relies on someone continuing to pin the file indefinitely, though, right?

The neat thing about IPFS is that the IPFS URL is based on a hash of the file.

So having saved that file offline on my harddrive, I can later re-add it to IPFS.

    ipfs add Downloads/1337.png

    added QmWjXFUVNjavM4hDzXeQYGXGCXjV86mP7kPEaTeP5bohae 1337.png
     140.68 KiB / 140.68 KiB [=============================================] 100.00%
Notice that because I added the same file to my local ipfs, it got the same id as it had when I retrieved it.

QmWjXFUVNjavM4hDzXeQYGXGCXjV86mP7kPEaTeP5bohae

So, IPFS doesn't even require that the file is indefinitely pinned.

And if I have a public node, others can now once again retrieve the file using the same known id.

The person that re-adds it doesn't have to (nor can) specify the id of the file; that's calculated from the hash of it.

(Although, IPFS does also have a way to serve mutable data, so in those cases the id is not calculated directly from just a hash. But in the case of the image we looked at here we see that it was.)

The difference between needing to pin forever and merely needing to have a copy of the same file somewhere outside of IPFS which is then re-added to IPFS and gets the same ID is a fine distinction perhaps, but still an important one IMO.

And I think that even if all of the IPFS nodes that currently have a copy of the Bored Apes would go offline, there is probably someone out there who would notice that and for whatever reason be motivated to make all of the apes available again on IPFS with their same original id's that they had by re-adding the original files.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by tamimio »

sandworm101 wrote: post #276
endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

Because part of cryptobro culture is thinking you know more than anyone else, and projecting an image of access to secret insider knowledge. Likely one of them just decided to be a lighting designer because they thought they new more than the professionals.

> Because part of cryptobro culture is thinking you know more than anyone else

That’s basically the case with most if not all internet cultures.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by Nursie »

technion wrote: post #359
s1artibartfast wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a rave open to the general public. How many people actually consider the reputation of someone setting up a party or rave. Half the time it IS someone out of their mind on drugs in a condemned warehouse or the middle of the desert .

Wait.. just to be clear are you saying you could get in without owning one? I heard for years the "benefit you don't understand" is the exclusive club access. Exclusive nightclubs were a specific use case I kept seeing argued. If anyone can walk in it's not that exclusive. Heck people might just be a raver that doesn't care about crypto but showed up to dance.

It seems like the club night/party was open to people who bought tickets for the "Open House" event they ran that day, for about $50 US - https://www.artazine.com/news/apefest-2023-nft-bored-ape-yac...

Hard to be sure though.

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Post by wyldfire »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #330
thrwy_918 wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK it is often perfectly possible to actually encode image data on-chain, it is just much more expensive (and much less common as a result)

Perhaps but the standard NFT is a URL encoded in the chain. Yes this is as absurd as it sounds.

It seems to me that cryptocoin adjacent things somehow attract well meaning people who just don't understand what parts of the technology are critical to its functionality. Maybe they understand one use case for a signature but don't really understand what signature is and more importantly what it isn't.

And sadly enough - several cryptocoins themselves are also this way.

I used to think cryptocoins were truly revolutionary. But the tech space is so rife with abuse, theft, scams that it doesn't feel worth it.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by cthulha »

ericflo wrote: post #279

If you read this article and it gave you pleasure, examine those feelings. I find the generally schadenfreudic reaction to be disgusting. These people just wanted to get together to talk about something they enjoy and you don't.

HN1: "Let people enjoy whatever they enjoy"

HN2-100:

HN1: "Not like that"

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