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> Why not simply not comment? Please don't post attacks like this here.
It was a question, similar to the exact tort posted. Please don't post self-righteous dismissive comments here.
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Section 4 of the Jitsi Meet ToS grants them similar rights. It's just with mushier language. > You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works..., communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other…
> solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other purposes. To me (a former corporate lawyer) the "for You" qualifier would limit their ability to use content to train an AI for use by anyone other than "You". Is there an argument? Yes. But by that argument, they would also be allowed to "publicly perform" my videoconf calls for some flimsy reasons tha…
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For various reasons I have a bunch of different groups where I use different videocall software for regular meetings - Zoom, Jitsi, Teams, Skype, Google Meet and Webex. Out of all those, Jitsi is the only one where I can't rely on the core functionality - video calls and screensharing for small meetings (5-6 people); I have had multiple cases when we've had to switch to something else because the video/audio quality…
Bigger servers?
You want to see a Zoom client that is utter broken trash? Look at the Linux flatpak. The scaling is completely broken, buttons are covered up, changing the size of the window results in bleed-through from underneath in parts but not others. Once a call is started if you maximize the window it will cut the other side's video in half. I am not a regular user of Zoom at all but I did install the flatpak to check it out.…
The Flatpak wrapper for Zoom is not made or endorsed by Zoom, Inc. as indicated in its description [1]. I am definitely not a fan of Zoom either and had my own issues with the Linux client, but if the problems you describe are unique to the Flatpak and not in the official Linux distribution, you can't blame Zoom for that. [1] https://flathub.org/apps/us.zoom.Zoom
It's not like a flatpak packager says "ok let's implement the GUI framework from scratch".
So, yes, I can blame Zoom for sure!
If by some chance flatpak packagers need to re-implement all the GUI calls manually, then it is a miserable failure as a packaging format and needs to be terminated immediately. But we know this is not so, right? Nobody would be that stupid as to require hand-coding the GUI all over again, right?
You want to see a Zoom client that is utter broken trash? Look at the Linux flatpak. The scaling is completely broken, buttons are covered up, changing the size of the window results in bleed-through from underneath in parts but not others. Once a call is started if you maximize the window it will cut the other side's video in half. I am not a regular user of Zoom at all but I did install the flatpak to check it out.…
Have you tried using a desktop OS that vendors give a crap about? (Yeah I know how that sounds but it's true)
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Zoom? A company publicly traded on the Nasdaq and funded in San Jose, CA?
Surprised me too... "The company has previously acknowledged that much of its technology development is conducted in China and security concerns from governments abound." https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/zoom-admits-to-shutting-do...
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Section 4 of the Jitsi Meet ToS grants them similar rights. It's just with mushier language. > You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works..., communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other…
Self-hosting Jitsi is the better option. Or BigBlueButton, and there are more self-hosted open-source Zoom alternatives.
And unfortunately my company uses Zoom with no opt out other than leaving my job. :-/
Why not switch? I've had good experiences with competitors. I don't know if they're as nice for mass meetings instead of one-to-one or small groups, but at least for the chats I've had, there's never been any reason to go to Zoom. (I care more about spyware, privacy, and user sovereignty than AI training.)
Because "company policies"