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Post by jacquesm »

light_hue_1 wrote: post #233
FreelanceX wrote: post #180

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> EU knows and complains about Poland & Hungary but France is going to be a shitshow of a far worse magnitude. I am French too and this sounds greatly exaggerated. Either you don't really know about the situation in Hungary or you have a very twisted view of what's happening in France (maybe induced by the medias). You should take a step back.

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> It's not unlikely that democracy in France will not survive LePen.

Not sure what you meant but I would say that it is not likely that democracy in France will survive LePen.

She's just like her dad (or even worse) but much more savvy about the packaging.

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Post by mytailorisrich »

HourglassFR wrote: post #311
qsdf38100 wrote: post #285

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> You are attacking the wrong target. You are missing the big picture. This is rich comming from someone putting Melenchon, basically an old school socialist (in the werstern Europe sense), in the same bag as Le Pen and Zemmour who are as far-right as it gets in Europe. I agree that the situation is not very readable, but at least let's try to have a point of view consistent with the political history of the last few…

Le Pen is not "as far-right as it gets" and neither is Zemmour.

Melenchon is very left-wing, started as a Trostkist and is good friend Venezuela's Maduro, against the capitalist system, etc. So if you think Le Pen is extreme on one side then Melenchon has to be equally extreme on the other side.

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Post by dtoma »

ikt wrote: post #307
tut-urut-utut wrote: post #287

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You criticise Macron for visiting a „dictator“ but not for being dictator himself? Macrons pushing of retirement law change against both public and parliament is definitely not democratic.

I think maybe because the rest of the world sees those changes he pushed through as incredibly mild he increased the pension age because people are getting older and the state will not be able to afford it? wow what a crazy dictator

Other variables could have been adjusted (pensions, contributions...). Independent studies showed that our retirement system is very much affordable for our government and will still be 50 years from now. Just today it's also been revealed that the government's plan overestimated its savings by 4B euros...

Are you just repeating a common cliche while not knowing much about the situation?

So yes, unilaterally deciding to raise the retirement age, which doesn't actually fix anything, without having a vote, without listening to the protests, is neither mild nor democratic.

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Post by icefo »

Joker_vD wrote: post #350
isaacremuant wrote: post #316

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During the Trump/Biden elections, I distinctly remember the "these elections probably are also being manipulated by the Russians right now" narrative being dropped the moment it became obvious that Biden's winning. Well, if the right candidate wins, the elections must have been fair.

The elections can be skewed with different kind of manipulation (social media, troll farms, electronic ballot hacks) and the popular candidate can still win.

It's fair to assume Putin would try to influence the elections in trump's favor as he would have been beneficial for him.

The Ukraine invasion would have been much easier if trump had been relelected, finished pulling out of nato and kept the more isolationist policy that was in effect during trump.

IMO trump was also doing a lot of damage to the US and it's position on the world stage which is also beneficial for Putin.

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Post by reddit_refugee3 »

junon wrote: post #288
Arkhaine_kupo wrote: post #269

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What do you mean the worst of several options? The law is the law, if it's unfair it gets changed. Having the judge "making it up" as he goes, and then another judge using that sentence 120 years later as precedent like in american courts sounds insane

What you describe does not match reality.

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Post by niij »

susanthenerd wrote: post #310
CyberDildonics wrote: post #274

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That does not contain the words "FBI" or "watch"

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Hi, I see you have a relatively new account and previously used reddit. Make sure to read the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by chopin »

franky47 wrote: post #112

In the mean time, the French government is also sending out a call for projects [1] that increase cybersecurity, digital sovereignty and promote encryption of data. Just not for the common folk, but for startups. I find it funny (/s) that my current project is funded by the French government to develop end-to-end encryption in web applications [2]. Am I a terrorist too? [1] https://www.bpifrance.fr/nos-appels-a-proje…

It's a good way to make everybody suspicious.

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Post by barrkel »

skitout wrote: post #339
barrkel wrote: post #280

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/945415/gilets-jaunes-app... Those in favour went from 70 to 50% over the course of 5 months, opposition tripled, strong support went from 50% to 20%.

Few months after the start of the Gilet Jaune, they were not "blocking the country" anymore (I was answering a comment about this)... And while not supporting the Gilet Jaune mode of action anymore, people still strongly supported and support the main ideas they pushed, like Citizens' initiative referendum, or the Solidarity tax on wealth

To be fair, wealth taxes are a pretty unworkable idea in the large.

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Post by mytailorisrich »

beremaki wrote: post #158

Situation in France will not end well. Both rule of law and liberal democracy are increasingly damaged. Our institutions are so weak that we are one election away from a complete disaster. Our constitution always concentrated a lot of power in the hand of the president but there is no effective counter-power left. The government set multiple precedent that violate freedom of assembly and association and parliamentary…

I think we should not go over the top.

The case reported in this article started when French people who went to fight in Syria among Kurdish militants came back to France and were put under surveillance.

Even if the prosecution is using unconvincing evidence, which I don't know, this is hardly a sign of impending doom.

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Post by ptsneves »

junon wrote: post #196
ptsneves wrote: post #163

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What an incredible display of stereotyping, racism and sheer nonsense, even for HN.

Fair enough, care to reject the statements? It is a comment and opinion given in good faith. I am a citizen of a country mentioned there and live in another of the countries. I try to ground my thoughts on the Clash of Civilization[1] by Samuel Huntington an American political scientist that was in Yale and Harvard. I do not claim that theory is right, I can see it being considered racist stereotyped and non-sense but please do engage with the text instead of putting it in a box full of very negative adjectives.

As your comment stands for such a high ground one-liner you offer no single counterpoint. Even the community HN gets flak for something it definitely does not avow.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations

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