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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by themitigating »

kevviiinn wrote: post #342
themitigating wrote: post #239

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" the reactionary US political party" Republicans. I don't like the new subtle false equivalence. They are traitors.

From my perspective the Republicans are the reactionary party and the Democrats are the conservative party. It's just how far the Overton window has shifted. However I do agree that their actions do a lot to harm citizens and the country, more so than D or at least more blatantly and overtly. It's wild how they claim to be the about freedom then do everything they can to restrict it, especially with speech

What makes democrats the conservative party? Remember that's a comparison between the two, not an objective assement.

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Post by muyuu »

kevviiinn wrote: post #342
themitigating wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" the reactionary US political party" Republicans. I don't like the new subtle false equivalence. They are traitors.

From my perspective the Republicans are the reactionary party and the Democrats are the conservative party. It's just how far the Overton window has shifted. However I do agree that their actions do a lot to harm citizens and the country, more so than D or at least more blatantly and overtly. It's wild how they claim to be the about freedom then do everything they can to restrict it, especially with speech

as a foreigner with some interest in US history it does seem like Republicans are going back to their early philosophy of Republicanism, which is basically the moral and political framework of the USA circa the time of abolition, where as Democrats have adopted a postmodern European worldview

these two worldviews differ very significantly and are in a very deep conflict, and by definition the euro-postmodern view is a lot more comfortable in bureaucracy and the currently much bigger (Federal-) State, is much better at it, and effectively controls it at all levels

this renders Republicans into a reactionary party, especially as the growing trend within it abandons neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism

Democrats look a lot like the old Whig party which existed both sides of the Atlantic but was out of step with the prevailing culture; they also look a lot more like a modern British mainstream party than any major US party has looked before, which IMO it's not a good thing, but European politicians love it

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by dang »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #80

> I think it was Hermann Hesse who wrote that "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us." Funny coincidence that some of the most outspoken ANTI-LGBT people get caught doing the very things they claim to despise.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35535616 and marked it off topic.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by transcoderx »

vidarh wrote: post #318
transcoderx wrote: post #255

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The first study is a survey of surgeons, which seems rather useless. What warrants the assumptions that they would learn about the long term outcomes of their surgeries? The second claims to have looked into several studies, which might include ones like the first one. Would be nice to have an actually useful direct study, especially for young people. As for cosmetic surgery, you brought that up. I don't think it is…

Find better ones countering what I've shown then, instead of speculating. But we both know you won't.

There is nothing to counter. May look for studies next week when I have a notebook and not just a phone.

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Post by transcoderx »

chownie wrote: post #346
transcoderx wrote: post #221

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The issue is kids being transitioned, in whatever way. The pills build up towards surgery.

"Being transitioned" removes agency from people who fight for years for this. You have been shown across this thread that vanishingly few even gain access to any kind of medical support until their late teens and still you insist on lying, pretending that "kids" are being transitioned against their will -- meanwhile in reality trans teens are crying out at the 5+ year long waiting lists just for access to clinics. Yo…

Vanishingly small numbers? There are hundreds of teens who get surgeries and thousands who get drugs.

Your claim that it all only happens because of these kids agencies is unsubstantiated.

How do you explain the doubling of numbers of kids who say they are trans?

And you claim nobody ever regrets transitioning, which is a lie.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by transcoderx »

chownie wrote: post #344
transcoderx wrote: post #99

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Bullshit, 16 would be too late for hormone blockers. The blockers are also said to prevent the kids from adapting to their biological gender, leading onto a path to surgery. I am amazed how willing to lie people are in this forum.

Hormone blockers suppress the expression of estrogen and testosterone, I was very clearly referring to hormone replacement therapy. Moral of the story is, people aren't lying just because you refuse to read the words written literally on the screen.

I meant to say puberty blockers, not hormone blockers. Which should have been quite obvious from the context.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by dang »

transcoderx wrote: post #357
stonogo wrote: post #352

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Not taking the word of a random web comment who makes extraordinary claims with no evidence is not any denial at all, in fact. It's working wonderfully, and will continue to do so for many generations.

If all indications you have seen for the topic being pushed on kids are my comments, you are in extreme denial.

We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. Regardless of what you're battling for, that's not allowed here. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by dang »

stonogo wrote: post #352
transcoderx wrote: post #254

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Yeah you can say that, but then you just signal that you don't want to be taken seriously. Not sure how you manage to live in so much denial, but if you can truly pull it off, congratulations! May it work out well for you!

Not taking the word of a random web comment who makes extraordinary claims with no evidence is not any denial at all, in fact. It's working wonderfully, and will continue to do so for many generations.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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