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Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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For anyone wondering, Trader Joe's sells these in the US! They're great, and they're "real" Bamba and not a TJ's replica.

https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/058373 "Bamba Peanut Snacks contain just four, simple ingredients: corn grits, peanut paste, palm oil, and salt."

I might be mistaken, but IIRC it originally (as in, 60 years ago) contained peanuts, salt, and that’s it. 100% peanuts were replaced by 50% peanuts+50% corn some time in the last 30 years.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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That's fascinating! In ex-Yugoslavia (Bosnia and Croatia in my case) we were raised on Smoki which looks very similar! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoki

Yeah, in USSR we also had these corn puffs(Кукурузные Палочки). Bamba is different despite looking the same. It has very "peanutty" taste (and ingridient) unlike the corn puffs which are just sweet.

Confusingly enough, there is also “red bamba” available in Israel (officially called “sweet bamba” but everyone calls it red bamba) which has no peanuts - only corn and an outer sweet red coating with a berry-ish flavor.

An American friend told me it looks and tastes like captain crunch berries, and it is unfair that American kids have only a few in a serving, and israeli kids can just get bags of them.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Peanut allergies were exceptionally rare decades ago when nobody worried about peanut allergies in the first place. In the 20th century everybody in America sent their kids to school with peanut butter sandwiches and virtually everybody was fine. I didn't even know people could be allergic to peanuts until I was an adult. Now schools ban peanut butter sandwiches and it seems like every other family claims their child…

The narrative you are presenting is also based on common sense though. We have observations that populations of kids eating peanuts early have lower allergy rate, but it´s not like we isolated 300 babies and experimented on them for 30 years, we just can´t. Short of other stronger evidence we assume it´s true, but if tomorrow we found that there were other causes specific to the US, independent from peanuts themselve…

> The narrative you are presenting is also based on common sense though.

Yes that's my point. Common sense was never with the peanut bans. Common sense was with peanut eating the entire time.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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If they used tasty healthy lard the product wouldn't sell very well in Israel or anywhere else in the Near East...

Similar to the palm oil, when imported, the tallow comes in on chemical tankers (whose cargo tanks' most recent cargoes were things like benzene or methanol at the cleanest). Yum.

Cleaning is mandatory but I am wondering who is controlling...

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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If they used tasty healthy lard the product wouldn't sell very well in Israel or anywhere else in the Near East...

Similar to the palm oil, when imported, the tallow comes in on chemical tankers (whose cargo tanks' most recent cargoes were things like benzene or methanol at the cleanest). Yum.

Tallow, from cattle and sheep, would be fine I think. Pigs are considered unclean for some reason. Benzene is just a sunscreen ingredient.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/benzene-in-sunscreen/

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

If you can't find Bamba but you have European or Balkan shop nearby you can try buying Smoki [1], it's the same thing. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=smoki&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiE...

I used to eat the living crap out of Smoki. Could probably take on a 100m tall peanut monster.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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If you can't find Bamba but you have European or Balkan shop nearby you can try buying Smoki [1], it's the same thing. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=smoki&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiE...

Looks like it's what's called Erdnussflips in Germany

I just tried some last night, in a side-by-side comparison with real Erdnussflips. Bamba have a smoother/softer texture (less crunchy), and the peanut flavor is weaker.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Good question, I mean how many people were actually feeding Cheeto puffs to their 6 month old before it became a health trend

The peanut allergy hysteria narrative says that I can't eat peanuts on a plane or in a classroom with somebody who's allergic because the mere odor of peanuts might kill them. If there is any shred of truth to that narrative (which I seriously doubt), then perhaps trace peanut dust in a home from adults eating crunchy peanut-based snacks is enough early exposure to inhibit an allergic reaction.

My uncle doesn't topple over dead from the smell of peanuts, but he can't be in the house while peanut butter cookies are baking or he will get a bad/dangerous reaction. I suppose there's likely people with worse allergies than him.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

These are called "Erdnussflips" (peanut flips) in Germany and Austria. Apparently they were first sold around the same time as Bamba, in 1967. Smoki came a little later. I wonder who copied whom here.

In Germany they are mostly sold along potato chips (crisps), but they aren't as popular as them. And unlike Bamba they are usually not fed to small children, as far as I'm aware. Good to know they seem to protect against allergy, as peanut butter is not really a thing here.

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Similar to the palm oil, when imported, the tallow comes in on chemical tankers (whose cargo tanks' most recent cargoes were things like benzene or methanol at the cleanest). Yum.

Cleaning is mandatory but I am wondering who is controlling...

>who is controlling...

Depends on which port and which personnel.

The better informed are all aware that after discharge, if the remaining barrels of benzene or methanol can be completely removed by suction and evaporation from the designated edible oil compartments and all associated pipelines and hoses, there is never any cleaner equipment.

Considering earlier voyages, there is no way 12 hours of shipyard cleaning is going to be as effective at removing traces of previous cargoes like acrylonitrile or spent transformer oil, compared to a full voyage when loaded with hundreds of tonnes of such a clean, strong solvent as high-purity benzene or methanol.

So you can only imagine whether everyone involved will all play their supposed part to the fullest extent you might have in mind when preparing for bulk edible oils. Every time.

Sometimes expediting the movement will have to take precedence, other times there "just might" be the attitude of "why bother?"

And when you're the one climbing down inside the vessel compartment to inspect for cleanliness, there can be quite a bit of pressure not to reject a tank that looks so clean (as long as there is no obvious wetness) compared to some of the other choices on board the same ship. Once any of the crew or yourself has been down there and come back up without immediate ill effects, it's been long thought it can't be that bad unless you actually saw something wrong visually.

Certificates of Cleanliness, if required, will always be a part of the paperwork package.

And may I remind you it's the methanol that carries the skull & crossbones, not the benzene.

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