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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by Apocryphon » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:19 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #272

JAlexoid wrote: post #267

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At almost twice the price of a desktop with the same RTX3070 from Dell or HP. It's definitely a great machine, but if you're a gamer - stay away.

I would like to see better gaming on Mac just so I wouldn't need two computers, or compromise just to get a machine that can be a halfway decent gaming setup.

Guess that means consoles will always have a place as that "second computer".

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by drorco » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

radlad wrote: post #303

drorco wrote: post #287

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I haven't yet seen screens with USB-C support that have refresh rates higher than 60hz, unfortunately.

Why does the screen need USB-C support? I imagine you'd use a Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cable or similar.

For cases when you have let's say a gaming PC and a Macbook connected to the same screen. You want a USB-C port so the Macbook will get everything from a single USB-C port (power included), but you also want your gaming PC to benefit from a high performance monitor with high refresh rates on a DisplayPort/HDMI connection.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by G3rn0ti » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

ilamont wrote: post #252

rconti wrote: post #61

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It's insane how boldly (for Apple) they focused on ports and cables. I can't remember a previous demo video that showed so many ugly cables hanging out the back of the machine. They've finally realized it's a selling point!

My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports. If only it had multiple HDMI ...

> My jaw hit the floor when I saw USB A ports.

Don‘t forget the headphone jack!

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by mkaic » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:21 PM UTC

dmje wrote: post #188

The clauses on those sentences don't scan. Stunningly compact. Extensive connectivity. Outrageous performance. I mean, you've gotta either go Stunning size. Extensive connectivity. Outrageous performance. or Stunningly compact Extensively connected. Outrageously performant. Anyway. Not sure anyone apart from me will care.

Eh, reads fine to me. Helps break up the list so that people don't just skim over it, I'd guess.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by yurishimo » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

NorwegianDude wrote: post #341

yurishimo wrote: post #295

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https://www.macstadium.com/datacenters If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an image carousel with an example.

But why would anyone do that? IO is very limited, memory on the m1/mini doesn't support ECC from what I know, and repairs/parts/redundancy is terrible. I can understand it if it's just for fun, but otherwise it seems like a really strange idea.

It's one of the only sane form factors available if you need off-site compute power running on MacOS. The rack mount Mac Pro helped to fill that niche somewhat, but they're just insanely expensive.

Amazon has dedicated Mac hardware in AWS as well and the pricing is also crazy expensive.

For large app devs though, the cost is worth it to build their apps in the cloud without bogging down their local machines constantly. If you have rebuild targets for a half dozen OS versions, it can add up!

Datacenters are the solution and the Mac Mini just so happened to be the form factor that was available and could be made to work with less hassle than accommodating laptops.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by runjake » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

radlad wrote: post #304

ilamont wrote: post #283

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So I don't have to use a dongle for a second screen. They break, come loose, and sometimes don't work with Apple equipment.

No need for a dongle. Thunderbolt/USBC-DisplayPort cables exist.

I do this, and it supports 144 hz.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by infinityio » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

xienze wrote: post #117

srvmshr wrote: post #84

I am genuinely crestfallen that there was no update to Mac Mini. That thing has the right balance for most computer science folks who want a Mac. Not everyone needs/runs a silicon Godzilla on their desk after all. As of the current lineup, Mini is still stuck with 16 GB RAM and a disappointing number of ports.

What update were they going to do? Make an M1 Max model? That would cut into sales for the base Studio.

They don't have a desktop M1 Pro implementation yet afaik?

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by Keyframe » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:29 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #225

Thaxll wrote: post #50

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Well crazy mac hardware is actually not very good compared to PC graphic cards.

What's the M1 Max equivalent to? Roughly a RTX3070 or thereabouts? That doesn't seem too awful.

Unless you want more or replace it.

Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:30 PM UTC

tonguez wrote: post #298

hughrr wrote: post #4

This is actually really cheap. Maxed out at £7999 is less than half the price of an HP Z with similar numbers configured in which it probably can’t even get near the mac. And it doesn’t need $1000 wheels.

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Re: Apple Mac Studio

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Post by robotresearcher » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 9:30 PM UTC

pipeline_peak wrote: post #324

I don’t even care about the specs. Just love the fact they fit it all in that tiny case, flush under a Studio display monitor. There’s something 90s about it, SGI maybe?

Sun SPARCstation IPC: a lovely form factor and a great client machine. The matching monitor could sit on top. The whining fans were not so great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_IPC

It was quickly obsolete as CPUs got fast and too hot for that box.