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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by Ekaros »

temp8964 wrote: post #159
bootloop wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some (big) creators store all related material and the videos themselves. Others get rid of everything once the video is finished and uploaded. Edit: Of all my YT videos I wouldn't know where I have the sources stored although I never deliberately deleted them.

Is this because video files are very large and store them will be very expensive? I honestly have no idea how large they are, but I would be surprised if it will become a significant portion of the cost of a serious business.

They can be pretty large. I see point of not storing raw footage, but finished videos after encoding is surely something to keep. Just for in future to upload to other services.. At least if you run actually profitable business.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by Linosaurus »

yobbo wrote: post #320
foxfluff wrote: post #122

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> Your expectations from free service should be zero. So it's ok if someone takes your car the next time you park on a free parking lot? It doesn't work that way in the physical world. I don't see why it should work that way in the digital world. Offering to hold your property for free isn't a license to steal or destroy it.

> next time you park on a free parking lot? The closest analogy is; if you park without paying, your car might get impounded.

> impounded

Not a bad analogy. Getting an impounded car back is often described as being abusively expensive beyond real costs.

That would be a improvement for the OP.

Though I don't think any of the giants have an incentive to offer this since might draw more attention than just telling them to fuck off.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by Havoc »

ilamont wrote: post #97

How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action? No warning. No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy." No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative. N…

>How many more pleas like this will we see on HN?

Till the cost of bad press exceeds the cost of providing a usable support service.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by throwaway984393 »

p1esk wrote: post #294
throwaway984393 wrote: post #245

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> Just imagining the nightmare that would happen if I got locked out of my Gmail account (10 years of accounts) We think the things we've built up over the years are important, but really they're just digital sandcastles. The only account you have online that matters is your bank account. When everything else goes, it turns out it doesn't affect you in the future. You just create new accounts and move on.

The only account you have online that matters is your bank account Can’t you just visit your bank office in person and reset it? Or if they can’t do it, just withdrew all the funds and create a new account?

Oh sure, you can recover your account or create a new one in person. I imagine online banks have similar avenues

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by jmnicolas »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #217
jmnicolas wrote: post #107

If think this can happen if a malicious person (a competitor for example) use a bot to mass report your videos. So it might not be as random as you think. I'm currently in a conundrum: I'm completely degoogled except a YT account that I can lose without problem. I have built a website a few weeks ago and I don't think I can get good SEO rankings if I don't use Google console tools. I'm just procrastinating because it…

I think it's important to be pragmatic here. I'm (slowly) in the process of moving away from 'big tech' services where I can, but I still plan to use them where it makes sense (WhatsApp, Discord, YouTube). I'm also evaluating e-mail for a small business and we might be going with Microsoft, even though I would never choose them for my personal e-mail (I left some comments on that topic recently). Taking back our priv…

I hear you, but if I surrender my site to Google, I will always have the risk of being banned for no reason.

If I understand correctly the recent news I can't use Google analytics anyway (both my site and I live in France).

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by sinuhe69 »

How long is the average video? 1-2 hours? Then I think the average size of the videos will be 1-2 GB for FHD solution with h.264 compression; maybe double the size for fast compression. But even so, 700+ videos will require a few TB of storage only. You can buy some 1-2 TB mobile HDD to store them offline, just in case. It’s nothing fancy but very easy to handle, cheap and works in most cases. Most people store their photos in this way, if I’m not mistaken.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by ilaksh »

ilamont wrote: post #97

How many more pleas like this will we see on HN? Or, hear from friends, colleagues, and relatives who have been locked out or denied access to an important service, either through no fault of their own or by an innocent action? No warning. No explanation other than "suspicious activity" or "violation of [vaguely worded] policy." No human to call who can help troubleshoot, other than a tech-savvy friend or relative. N…

The solution is decentralizing.

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by [deleted] »

charcircuit wrote: post #300
rendall wrote: post #264

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You are correct, and if that were the end of it, people like myself who are concerned about it could rightly be labeled paranoid. However, the collected data create an intimate, detailed portrait of you. Data aggregators can know how old you are, your general state of health, where you have been, your interests, including sexual interests, your political views both expressed and unexpressed, your associations, your a…

>model you and your behavior more accurately than could your own spouse. To me this is a natural thing. It makes sense that computers are better at remembering and interpreting data than humans. YouTube is able to recommend me videos much better than I could myself. I don't remember the names of all the people I like, but YouTube does.

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Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by majewsky »

vero2 wrote: post #330
Freak_NL wrote: post #326

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Recommending Google as a backup in case Google decides to delete your videos sounds a bit suboptimal. Go with hosted backup; sure, for this use case that makes sense. But do so with a different company.

acquiring talent to manage google drive is easy. Not cheap or easy for Amazon/B2.

Why do you need to hire extra people to manage a cloud storage account with two file uploads per week?

Re: Tell HN: YouTube and how my wife lost 7 years of work

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Post by ghusbands »

makeitdouble wrote: post #277
exikyut wrote: post #262

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Just thinking out loud, I wonder if this falls afoul of the GDPR for users in the EU in any way. This "access is blocked" position kind of leaves hanging whether data has explicitly been retained or deleted; so in scenarios where a user could demonstrate incontrovertible proof that they uploaded some information to a service and did not delete it, it would be interesting to see if the user could leverage freedom-of-i…

I think GDPR rules would be cleared with Google effectively deleting all the data, which could be their laziest solution to a legal request…

Deleting data in response to a GDPR request is explicitly illegal under the GDPR.
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