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More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by giantg2 »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #217
Insanity wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangentially, I recently moved to Canada and was surprised by the lack of quality healthcare.. Literally could not believe some walk ins have paper files and use fax, plus finding a GP apparently is a months long quest. Visiting a specialist took ages, and I wouldn’t say it was the best / most modern infrastructure there either. (And I went in downtown Toronto, must be so much worse for more remote places I guess). I…

American doctors all use fax machines and “heavy paper files” to transmit referrals. Who cares? An enormous amount of working Americans have no healthcare at all. Would you prefer that?

Well... not really paper files. As of a few years ago, it was mandated that provides maintain digital records. They could still send paper, but most seem to use disc and myChart stuff. And yes, fax is still prevalent as well (mostly legal compliance reasons in my opinion).

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by jeremyjh »

jsodw wrote: post #341
afavour wrote: post #129

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

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Moderna's mRNA vaccine is based on one they tested for SARS-Cov-1 in 2003, and they have done long-term follow-up on those participants. They all turned into alligators after 15 years.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by hcrisp »

jpm_sd wrote: post #127

I wish I could feel "vaxxed and done". My whole extended family is vaccinated and everyone who's old enough is boostered. But I have three children in elementary and middle school. Like school systems across the country, ours is in chaos due to COVID absenteeism. Roughly 1/3 of the students and 1/4 of the teachers are currently out sick due to positive tests, some symptomatic, some not, and the numbers keep going up…

Nit: "Boostered" is not a word. "Boosted" is [0]. This is similar to when I hear people say "orientate" instead of simply "orient". We don't need to over-Latinize when simpler speech will do.

[0] https://www.thefreedictionary.com/boosted

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by lastofthemojito »

mizzack wrote: post #246
afavour wrote: post #129

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

You've got your anecdotes, and I've got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers. There's a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.

What sort of test were you able to get to determine that your kids' cases were of the omicron variant?

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Post by agensaequivocum »

afavour wrote: post #129

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

My whole family had covid last February including my three young children including one under 1. The children had the mildest symptoms. If you are worried about your children getting covid then I hope you never let near a car as they are much more likely to die in a car crash than covid.

If you want to continue locking your self up fine, I don't care. Just don't try to force others to do the same.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by jrs235 »

flavius29663 wrote: post #258
cableshaft wrote: post #206

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> This has largely been a catastrophic failure. More Americans have died from Covid under Biden than under Trump (not that it matters) True, but Trump only dealt with Covid for about 9 months at most, and that was starting from 0 cases in February, meanwhile Biden has dealt with it for 13 months at this point, and also took office in the middle of the major winter wave, and then the Delta wave in mid 2021, and now th…

Well, the vaccine rollout was planned under Trump and execution was in full force when Biden took office (1 million jabs a day). Biden didn't really do much after he took office, other than annoy people with inconsistent communication, federal over-reach and always singling "the others" as the root of all evil - which made them more reluctant to anything he proposed. Trump had to scale out testing, respirators, PPE,…

>Biden didn't really do much after he took office

I'm trying to figure out why it took so long for the emergency OSHA mandate to become an emergency mandate. If it was so important to protect people at work then this mandate should have been figured out 9 months ago and already have been in front of the Supreme Court. One has to have realized that any such mandate would be challenged and have quite a delay before it could be ruled on in the courts and possibly put into effect.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by toshk »

Of course people are done with it.

Vaccinations were sold as the solution to the pandemic.

Yet worldwide infections are going up at the same speed if not faster than before vaccinations. But no policy maker acknowledges this. They refer to the lowered death rate, or blame a new variant.

But it means that policy that gave people more freedom because of their vaccination status are not having any significant effect on decreasing the spread of the disease, they might even make it worse by allowing infectious people to mingle.

Therefore it's very unreasonable and authoritarian to not allow travel, shopping and even fire people over their vaccination status, when an individual decision clearly has a minimal effect on the collective.

Yet politicians are not budging but doubling down on vaccination policy, if there was any trust left in the integrity and capability of our leaders...

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Post by nradov »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #345
nradov wrote: post #326

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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...

> RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. Children don’t exist in isolation. They’re phenomenally good at spreading every infection to the rest of the household and everywhere else they go. Trying to focus on children's outcomes and ignoring all of the second-order effects is dishonest. Children don’t live alone.

The other members of the household are already vaccinated for COVID-19 if they want to be. The vaccines are still highly effective at preventing deaths.

RSV isn't really safe for adults either. But we accept the risk.

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Post by School-Cotton »

pradn wrote: post #116

I've vaxxed and boosted and will continue to get boosted as often as is recommended. I follow the local regulations, which in NYC mainly involve masking up and showing a vax proof for indoor activities like dining, concerts, and riding the NYC subway. I'm not stopping my life though. I've travelled internationally in the past few months, both to see family and sight-see. Seems like not a bad compromise. The one thing…

You don’t have to have proof of vaccination to ride the subway.
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