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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by lewantmontreal »

blakesterz wrote: post #100

I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

Has there been any research to OS response times between Macos, Windows and Linux?

Ive wanted to switch to Mac many times, most recently to M1 Mac Mini, but cant get over the frustrating slowness. Every action, like opening Finder, feels like it takes so long compared to Windows even with reduce animation on. I always end up returning the mac.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by moron4hire »

astlouis44 wrote: post #349
moron4hire wrote: post #231

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I am very confused by these claims on M1's GPU performance. I build a WebXR app at work that runs at 120hz on the Quest 2, 90hz on my Pixel 5, and 90hz on my Window 10 desktop with an RTX 2080 with the Samsung Odyssey+ and a 4K display at the same time. And these are just the native refresh rates, you can't run any faster with the way VR rendering is done in the browser. But on my M1 Mac Mini, I get 20hz on a single,…

What sort of WebXR app? Game or productivity app?

Productivity. It's a social VR experience for teaching foreign language. It's part of our existing class structure, so there isn't really much to do if you aren't scheduled to meet with a teacher.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by neogodless »

labby5 wrote: post #303
mhh__ wrote: post #39

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I'm waiting to be corrected by someone who knows GPU architecture better than me but as far as I can tell the synthetic benchmarks can trade blows with a 3070 or 80 (mobile), but the actual gaming performance isn't going to be as rosy. Also recall that very few games needing that performance actually work on MacOS

It's really hard to compare Apple and Nvidia, but a bit easier to compare Apple to AMD. My best guess is performance will be similar to a 6700xt. Of course, none of this really matters for gaming if studios don't support the Mac.

The mobile RTX 3080 limited to 105W is comparable to about an RX 6700M, which is well behind the desktop RX 6700XT.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by EvgeniyZh »

klelatti wrote: post #353
EvgeniyZh wrote: post #334

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4.9 GHz should be single-core max freq, not applicable in multicore benchmark. All-core turbo is lower, but also AFAIK there is a limit on time it run on this freq (tau for PL2, i think around half a minute by default).

Is there any reason why the Intel CPU wouldn’t run at 4.9 GHz for the single core benchmark though - whilst the M1 would be limited to a much lower frequency which it can sustain for much longer?

I think, but I'm not 100% sure, that limits are on overall TDP, i.e., single-core workloaad can run on turbo indefinitely. Then aalso I'd assume benchmarks are much longer than any reasonable value of tau which means it integrates out (i.e., Intel performance may be higher in short-term). Edit: that is probably one of the reasons single-core gap is smaller

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Post by spacedcowboy »

ryanjodonnell wrote: post #347
spacedcowboy wrote: post #311

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I'm looking forward to playing BG3 on mine :)

Is it optimized for mac?

There's a native ARM binary :) You can choose the x86 or ARM binary when you launch, and they're actually separate apps. That's how they get around the Steam "thou shalt only run x86 applications" mandate.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by 58028641 »

klelatti wrote: post #279
munro wrote: post #274

Here's the link to the MacBookPro18,2 OpenCL benchmark: * M1 Max OpenCL https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/compute/3551790 [60,167 OpenCL Score] Comparing to my current MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) & my Hetzner AX101 server: * MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) vs M1 Max - CPU https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/10496766?baseli... [single 163.6%, multi 188.8%] * MacBook Pro (16-inch Late 2019) vs M1 Max - Open…

Thanks - interesting on OpenCL - presumably running on GPU? All that memory opens up some interesting possibilities. Also I thought Apple was deprecating OpenCL in favour of Metal?

OpenCL and OpenGL have been deprecated in favor of Metal. Geekbench also has a Metal compute benchmark.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by littlestymaar »

blakesterz wrote: post #100

I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

I share the same feeling, and I'm glad to learn I'm not alone: earlier this year I worked for a (really) sort time with a company who gave me a Macbook M1, which I was pretty excited about.

Over the course of the two weeks I worked there, I faced:

- frequent glitches when unplugging the HDMI adaptor (an Apple one, which costed an arm and a leg).

- non-compatible software (Docker, Sublimetext)

- and even a Kernel Panic while resuming from hibernation

It was like working with Linux in the 2000's, but at least with Linux I knew it was gonna be a bit rough on the edges. Given the hype found online, I wasn't at all prepared for such an experience.

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Post by NovemberWhiskey »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #245
blakesterz wrote: post #100

I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

> I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. Two reasons: 1. M1 is a super fast laptop chip. It provides mid-range desktop performance in a laptop form factor with mostly fanless operation. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive. 2. Apple really dragged their feet on updating the old Intel Macs before the transition. People in the Mac world (excluding hackintosh) were stu…

>Apple really dragged their feet on updating the old Intel Macs before the transition. People in the Mac world (excluding hackintosh) were stuck on relatively outdated x86-64 CPUs.

Maybe my expectations are different; but my 16" MacBook Pro has a Core i9-9880H, which is a 19Q2 released part - it's not exactly ancient.

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Post by zsmi »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #327
mataug wrote: post #302

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> Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing True, but the point here is that M1 is able to achieve outstanding performance per watt numbers compared to Nvidia or Intel.

Are you really rendering in a cafe that you need on the go GPU performance?

For the content creator class that needs to shoot/edit/upload daily, while minimizing staff, I can see definite advantages to having a setup which is both performant and mobile.

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Post by kylemh »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #327
mataug wrote: post #302

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> Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing True, but the point here is that M1 is able to achieve outstanding performance per watt numbers compared to Nvidia or Intel.

Are you really rendering in a cafe that you need on the go GPU performance?

Besides what the other person commented, also consider creatives that travel. Bringing their desktop with them isn't an option.
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