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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by Latty »

betwixthewires wrote: post #287
olefoo wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What we're seeing is a "stochastic insurgency" where loosely affiliated groups and individuals conceive, plan and execute infrastructure attacks and targeted assassinations. Relatively little operational coordination; but lots of online showing support and post-crime support. I hope all congressional representatives and local government officials are reviewing their safety plans.

You can conclude all of that from one attack? Where are the other infrastructure attacks? Or targeted assassinations?

Recently there was the attempt to kidnap the Michigan's governor and the cell that was planning an attack on a power plant.

Both stopped by intelligence services, but that doesn't stop them being data points for people being extremists.

Not saying there is a guarantee this was people with the same objectives, but it seems like a plausible theory. I wouldn't make strong assertions as though it was fact, but I also wouldn't act like there hasn't been a trend recently.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by Latty »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #330
goodluckchuck wrote: post #183

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The only 5g conspiracy I’ve heard of was that Huawei and ZTE work closely with the CCP and installing infrastructure from those manufacturers may give China a grip over a huge swath of domestic communications.

Well there's a considerable portion of the population that believe 5g causes brain cancer and sterilization.

And COVID, and basically anything else they think is bad and want a thing to blame.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by the-dude »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #337
xwdv wrote: post #138

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The human remains might be that of someone who threatened to blow the cover and ended up strapped to a chair just a few feet away from the explosives.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, with nail polish.

You are not wrong.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by thom »

rendall wrote: post #359
joshuakelly wrote: post #22

This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…

I suspect the target of the bombing was the Melting Pot, a fondue restaurant. Have you ever had fondue? Burns the roof of your mouth, every time. It should be illegal

You’ve got to perfect the right technique to spin your fork so you don’t lose cheese, while allowing it to cool before popping it in your mouth. This is one of the pleasures of fondue for me.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by eitland »

vageli wrote: post #123
bigbubba wrote: post #119

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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. There are certainly people who believe both or either of those were terrorism.

Terrorism is the use of violence to promote an ideology. Full stop. Nothing precludes a terrorist act from helping people. Even Pablo Escobar set up schools and other institutions in his neighborhood.

When I first learned about it terrorism - as opposed to general political violence - included creating fear in the opposing side, which is the reason for the name.

I think with your definition everything would be terrorism which usually isn't what one wants.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by takeda »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #291
mckirk wrote: post #114

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Isn't acting out of a sense of morality the definition of a 'good deed'? Granted, bombing stuff hardly classifies but if you decide it's necessary to bomb something, preventing unnecessary harm for moral reasons could still be seen as a 'good deed'.

No. Some people think killing Jews is moral, for instance.

Yep, as long as you can explain that someone is a bigger monster than you are you can justify yourself killing anyone.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by girvo »

nr2x wrote: post #227
avs733 wrote: post #163

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>While I'm only speculating, it could be quite possible that whoever may have wished to damage or destroy the AT&T building, seriously underestimated what these kind of buildings can take (essentially being disguised bunkers). Which somehow makes it more plausible to me? The type of insane person who would do this seems like the type of insane person who would underestimate how reinforced such a building is.

It’s odd that if you knew why the building was valuable you wouldn’t also know it’s designed for this. Which makes me lean more towards coincidence.

Although someone choosing to bomb a place means I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t thinking everything through...

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by lucian1900 »

macinjosh wrote: post #273
ideophobia wrote: post #148

Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…

> This attack screams anti-government militia with it's technique What makes you think this? Vehicle bombs have been used by Islamic bombers, IRA bombers. Doesn’t seem that unique to me.

The IRA was an anti-government militia, specifically against British occupation.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by takeda »

macinjosh wrote: post #271
bsder wrote: post #134

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My first thought was arson for insurance money. However, the bomb placement makes no sense for that case. It really does seem like this was targeted at the ATT building.

The area being full of restaurants and bars that may have been pushed into hard times or have gone out of business because of overzealous COVID policies made me think of the possibility of someone doing this for insurance money or to cut their losses somehow.

I think more likely a 5G nut. Tennessee is pretty bad currently with COVID. Given it is 5G building, people were warned to leave area, large explosion (still not enough to destroy the building, but looks like it caused a huge damage) I think it is likely that someone believing that 5G causes people to get sick and die would think that could help.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by iridium_core »

Telco worker here. These sort of exchanges in big cities are usually built from solid concrete to minimise damage from these sort of attacks - either from warfare or terrorism. At least, for buildings built during the world wars or cold war.

Here's an exchange in Melbourne: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gHeHncO6W4U/ThpRVvEhXHI/AAAAAAAAJ...

Built with solid concrete and with thin windows.

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