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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by macinjosh »

bsder wrote: post #134
motohagiography wrote: post #122

Nanog thread: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2020-December/2109... Indicates closest ATT building was an ILEC CO, oddly, a voice exchange / telco meet-me point, or what we would call a peering point on the internet. Risk/reward on the bombing, we're clearly missing incentives information, as of the options available and conceivable purposes for going to that much effort, it doesn't add up yet. Everything a…

My first thought was arson for insurance money. However, the bomb placement makes no sense for that case. It really does seem like this was targeted at the ATT building.

The area being full of restaurants and bars that may have been pushed into hard times or have gone out of business because of overzealous COVID policies made me think of the possibility of someone doing this for insurance money or to cut their losses somehow.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

avs733 wrote: post #181
netsharc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're technically capable to make something this sophisticated, surely they'd know that all the 5G conspiracy theories are technically bunk? Although there are 2 variants of 5G weirdoism: the "cancer waves!" one and the "it gives us Covid!" one. The latter is easier to debunk...

Knowledge or expertise in one field does not always transfer to another one. C.f. Ben Carson, famed neurosurgeon, thought the Pyramid's were built to store grain.

to be fair that's what happens when you listen to your pastor on matters of egyptology...

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Post by macinjosh »

ideophobia wrote: post #148

Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…

> This attack screams anti-government militia with it's technique

What makes you think this? Vehicle bombs have been used by Islamic bombers, IRA bombers. Doesn’t seem that unique to me.

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Post by thih9 »

outoftheabyss wrote: post #100
Macha wrote: post #52

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Was pretty common (though not consistent) for the IRA to phone ahead to warn where they'd put bombs.

Ironically it was on an occasion when a bomb was phoned in that led to the single biggest atrocity during the troubles. 29 people killed by a cat bomb in Omagh. We may not be living in peace today has it not happened

“The Omagh bombing was a car bombing on 15 August 1998 in the town of Omagh, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom. (...) Telephoned warnings had been sent almost forty minutes beforehand and police inadvertently moved people toward the bomb.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing

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Post by Guthur »

PIKAL wrote: post #251
Guthur wrote: post #140

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There are many strategies that don't necessarily involve large human collateral damage but are still politically motivated. The Provisonsal IRA in N. Ireland during the Troubles was often times either targeting security forces, collaborators or commerical activity. Ostensibly the goal was to make the UKs continued involvement in N. Ireland untenable from an economic and political stand point. The IRA was quite aware…

But I don’t even need to look it up to know that they made absolutely sure to get credit for every single bombing. Why is that missing here?

Most certainly, well most of the time anyway unless it was particularly botched.

I'm actually not meaning to claim that this particular incident is political at all.

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Post by macinjosh »

drak0n1c wrote: post #200
jamroom wrote: post #193

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The linked article mentions anarchists opposed to the pipeline in British Columbia. I see nothing about Antifa.

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lol at HN downvoting your facts because they don't like them.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Post by phil21 »

unethical_ban wrote: post #195
Scoundreller wrote: post #87

Reports that most of Tennessee is without 9-1-1 service right now: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32982150-AT-T-Suffers-outa... And AT&T mobile is down across Kentucky: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32981927-Services-Suspicio... Also reports above that calls into Tennessee aren't working.

It is pretty nuts that a single physical location can bring down a state's worth of 911, and cellular. It is either institutional incompetence, or malice, or laziness.

> It is either institutional incompetence, or malice, or laziness.

If so it's endemic. I think many of us in the "telecom infrastructure" adjacent industries are thinking of more than a handful of much more impactful and less hardened targets.

Certainly a sobering Christmas.

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Post by barkingcat »

tptacek wrote: post #44
joshuakelly wrote: post #22

This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…

AT&T says that their services went down along with the gas & power in the area, as a side effect: the gas shutoff cut off their backup generators. That doesn't sound all that targeted.

Lessons of Die Hard from Nakatomi Plaza - if the services go down because of emergency procedures following a playbook (ie shut off gas & power as a standard response), that's as good as taking out the gas & power directly, and is just as targeted.

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Post by pseudo0 »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #221
corndoge wrote: post #186

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You probably saw the headlines about Cellebrite claiming to have "signal decryption" capabilities, which they did, provided they had the device in hand and unlocked https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-and-clickbait/

Just like anyone with a private key and file — this site has tangibly shifted from ‘14 to now.

Most people seemed to be having lots of fun roasting Cellebrite for that awful article.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25520481

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Post by waterhouse »

bigbubba wrote: post #119
whimsicalism wrote: post #105

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> violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism. Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. There are certainly people who believe both or either of those were terrorism.

Bertrand Russell's conjugations. I am a freedom fighter, you are an insurgent, he is a terrorist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_conjugation

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