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Re: iPadOS

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Post by jacurtis »

dhritzkiv wrote: post #81
dallen33 wrote: post #18

The list of supported devices is impressive. The iPad Air 2 came out in 2014. 12.9-inch iPad Pro 11-inch iPad Pro 10.5-inch iPad Pro 9.7-inch iPad Pro iPad (7th generation) iPad (6th generation) iPad (5th generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad mini 4 iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad Air 2

I'm still impressed by my iPad Air 2. I originally bought it for product demos/ as a presentation tool for work, but now use it regularly for personal use. My only regret is getting the 16GB version.

I too still use an iPad Air 2 (with Lightning/3rd Gen) every single day. It is starting to slow down but is still perfectly usable. Only recently have I even considered upgrading as they now offer the 9.8" iPad Pros. Until recently, I haven't even felt like there was any point in upgrading. Only minor features have been released (most of which affect things like cameras that I don't care about). The body style has barely changed and most people can't tell that I have a 5-year-old iPad. I've been very happy with it.

To this point, I wonder how much Apple is struggling with this "problem". There is very little value in upgrading to newer iPads. Even for those of us that have the disposable income to spend on them, we can use a 5 year old iPad which acts almost identically to the newer ones. Yes, Apple has pushed some of the power features that the newer ones can do, but for those of us that just use it for notetaking, internet browsing, social media consumption, etc there has been virtually no need to upgrade. The second hand market is saturated with perfectly good devices for $100-$150 that perform in ways that are nearly indistinguishable from brand new iPads for the 95% of the population that are using these devices for media consumption.

Sure if you use the iPad for media creation then you can benefit from a newer one. But for media consumption, the older iPads perform nearly indistinguishably from the new ones.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by fatboy93 »

jokowueu wrote: post #350
markstos wrote: post #128

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Quite well? Google abandons their phones after three years and repair options are limited compared to Apple. Apple has been supplying software updates for their phones for five years lately. On the plus side for Google phones, they are able to run third-party ROMs when Google quits supporting them.

TBH it's comes down to Qualcomm not updating their drivers .

What about phones running on Kirin or exynos SoCs?

shouldn't be that difficult to support your own fabbed SoC, but yet they sorely lack updates.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by mcphage »

pdimitar wrote: post #229
mcphage wrote: post #215

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They pushed it (and iOS 13.1) up to the 24th a few days ago.

You are correct. I literally checked about 3 hours ago and there were no updates but after your comment I successfully updated my iPhone and iPad Pro. Thanks for the heads up.

No problem. It was an unusual thing for them to do, but here we are.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by Miraste »

unicornfinder wrote: post #212
Miraste wrote: post #169

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Those decisions are pretty arbitrary. Way back on iOS 5, the iPod Touch 4 got the update and the original iPad missed it, despite using the exact same processor and RAM.

Keep in mind though that in the iPad it's having to push a lot more pixels.

Not back then. This was before "Retina" iPads, but the iPod Touch was Retina. You had a 960x640 screen vs a 1024x768 one. More pixels, but not so many more that it should block an OS update.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by nessus42 »

p1necone wrote: post #310
nessus42 wrote: post #286

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> I... but... how in the world is anyone ever supposed to know that exists??? Apple products have been like this for ages. I.e., they present a "simple" interface for the "typical" user, and then they provide "advanced" features for the "power user" that are only accessible via keyboard shortcuts, or what have you. (E.g., doing a screenshot on MacOS is via Command-$.) Their success in achieving the right balance, how…

I'm utterly bewildered that there's no official documentation of this stuff though. This seems to be common with a lot of modern software too. I remember when google maps changed from having a from location box and a to location box to just letting you type "from address A to address B", which is pretty nifty. However this was never actually documented so I spent months pressing randomly to get the old UI up (it stil…

> I'm utterly bewildered that there's no official documentation of this stuff though.

I don't know if there is or isn't official documentation everything you might typically want to know for Apple products. Clearly, they don't document the answer to every question that anyone might ever ask, but they do document many things that you might not think they do.

I know this because often when I Google for how to do something on a Mac, I often end up on some Apple page that tells me how to accomplish what I want. E.g., a page that documents a bunch of MacOS keyboard shortcuts, or what have you.

Of course, one problem is churn. I.e., the features in the software are changing frequently, and consequently, documentation can get quickly out of date. Also, Apple is likely to be cooperating with book authors. There is the "Missing Manual" series, which often seems to contain a lot of useful information (though, as I mentioned sometimes out-of-date), and I'm sure that David Pogue and friends don't figure all of this out via just trial and error. It seems like they must get some sort of assistance from Apple in the form of release notes or rough documentation, or something.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by EEMac »

Spivak wrote: post #282
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #277

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It's funny because this was one of the big issues I kept hearing (and agreed with myself) about Windows 8 - all the things that can happen when you hover in the corners and the hideous "charms" bar. I really REALLY wish buttons would come back in style.

The problem with buttons is that they’re visual clutter once you learn the gesture. This is a yet unsolved problem with making an interface discoverable but having it disappear once discovered without having two separate UIs. Can you imagine if there was a persistent button at the top of your screen that said “Open Notifications?”

"Can you imagine if there was a persistent button at the top of your screen that said “Open Notifications?” "

YES PLEASE! I've had enough of modern design. Text, links, and buttons all look the same. Sub-panels are hidden behind random things in random places and behind random swipes.

We're ready for a renaissance of discoverability in UI.

Re: iPadOS

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Post by givinguflac »

oflannabhra wrote: post #87
givinguflac wrote: post #58

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For an elderly person, just use iCloud for photos backup. It works incredibly well, and works through the native photos app, so it will totally eliminate the need to think about backing up unless it's offline all the time.

While I agree that iCloud is indeed great, it is more of a "sharing between devices" solution than a backup. If you delete a photo, it gets deleted on all your devices, and the only way to get it back is through iCloud.com.

What don't you like about that? It becomes the de facto storage for everything you can see. I don't really understand why you'd delete a photo that you want to keep?

Re: iPadOS

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Post by simonh »

xpe wrote: post #261
simonh wrote: post #219

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Maybe they’re mostly used for that, but ‘made for that’ is just not true. Apple has consistently, right from the start marketed it as a productivity and creative device, even emphasising iWork apps in the launch presentation and releasing Garage Band for it a few months after launch. They’ve consistently highlighted creative apps for the iPad year after year. For me, my iPad is m primary creative device, by far. I wr…

What do you use for (a) coding and (b) keyboard?

I use Pythonista mainly, though I started with Codea (Lua) years ago and I'm currently trying out Pyto.

I just use the on screen keyboard.

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