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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by liftbigweights »

dalbasal wrote: post #308

I'm always suspicious of stats like this. Is it cherry-picked? Does it mean what it sounds like it means? Do young users just delete-n-reinstall apps more often than older users? Is 44% higher than last year...? All that said, I expect FB (the social media network, not the company) to peak and shrink, at some point. It just seems more like something that exists for a certain period of time. Imagine a movie set in 203…

> All that said, I expect FB (the social media network, not the company) to peak and shrink, at some point. It just seems more like something that exists for a certain period of time.

Probably true in the US. But FB is still growing overseas.

> Facebook hasn't shown execution ability like that yet. Their moat isn't that deep.

Their moat is pretty deep. They own 4 out of the top 6 social media platforms.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-net...

All their properties are growing worldwide (even FB). And the fastest growing platform in the US for young adults is instagram. Guess who owns instagram?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by EvilMonkeyMat »

jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

Wow. Thanks for the way you put this out. This is exactly how I was feeling / what I was experiencing. So I went ahead, and installed my own MatterMost instance with friends.

What I realized recently is that Facebook is built in a way that makes it really hard to have a real conversation. People only share links and shout their opinions with no real place for exchange.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by kashprime »

duxup wrote: post #320
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

Medical twitter is fairly positive and a great way to learn about new papers and interact with educators and researchers. Check out the #foamed (Free Open Access Medicine) hashtag. I usually try to avoid following political people and keep my feed science-focused.

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Post by Asooka »

duxup wrote: post #320
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

I basically use Twitter for what I would use Facebook. I follow people I consider friends online and see their updates. I don't look at my timeline even, I just look at the stuff my friends post and share, the only time I see something from an account I don't follow is when a friend shares it. As a platform for keeping touch with a few dozen people you like, it's pretty good.

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Post by Novashi »

duxup wrote: post #320
jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

Infosec Twitter does share valuable information and job opportunities. It also has its share of drama and memes though.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by mark_l_watson »

I will go against the grain, a bit, here: I do think there is some value in FB: once a week I go on for 5 minutes (I time myself) and try to quickly look at stuff family and friends have posted, at least what FB’s algorithms choose to show me.

Also, If I release a new open source project or a new book, I like to use FB, Twitter, and G+ to announce it.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Nimitz14 »

Zelphyr wrote: post #148
_sdfo wrote: post #96

There's just no way I could keep myself up to date with local events without Facebook. I live in a post-soviet country so Snapchat and Instagram are considered pretty niche here so every social event is always documented on Facebook. I also hold a monthly gamedev meetup, which would be utterly impossible without Facebook. The attendance has grown from 5 to 30 people in a few months and is now helping jump start the g…

It is evil but it's really not as necessary as you think. I'm known to ALL of my friends and ALL of my family as someone who will not ever be on Facebook. You know what they do? They call me. Or text me. Or email me. And I never miss out on events. Even people I rarely interact with know how to, and do reach me outside of Facebook. People make such a big deal out of how impossible their social lives would be without…

I'm guessing you are not interests in local events.

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Post by modeless »

duxup wrote: post #342
rotskoff wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have found that the machine learning research community uses twitter pretty effectively. I don't tweet myself, but I do follow a good number of other researchers and often find interesting papers and results through the venue. It's much more effective than scouring the arXiv.

Yeah it's hard to curate a feed, I'm sure there are good groups out there (there has to be). I just struggle to find them.

I get a lot of value from Twitter's AI and computer graphics communities, but I used to see a lot of retweeted political garbage too. I found that Twitter's "mute words" feature works wonders. After muting about 100 words ("trump", "obama", "republican", "democrat", "evil", "lied", "nazi", that obnoxious hand clap emoji, etc) it's like a whole different place. Much less rage-inducing.

You can also disable Twitter's annoying engagement-boosting features by muting special undocumented tokens like "suggest_recycled_tweet_inline" and "suggest_who_to_follow". https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/09/19/twitters-annoying-f...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by ChuckMcM »

jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

It would be uniquely refreshing if Facebook would apply an overlay to every post that gave it a true/false and hate/love rating. This makes an interesting 2 x 2 box score and for a while I was looking at some NLP to pull out common themes and rate them, but I realized that if you just used a bi-variable version of the "like" widget you could have people moderate.

Such a signal, combined with actual research on the veracity and tone of the post could be combined to highlight places where people need help and where bad actors might be plying their wares.

But I don't honestly expect anyone in management at Facebook to advocate such a system.

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