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Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #333

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Yeah this is weird. Which users are bothered enough by the leading www enough to justify messing with semantics?

My bet is this decision is driven somewhere by marketing morons who want 'www.google' (presumably a domain that will at some point exist, the TLD already does) to render as simply 'google'

Technically there's no reason why a TLD can't have an A record. If they own "google." they can point it to whatever address and serve whatever they want.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#362

Safari already hides "www.". In fact it hides everything except the root-level domain, e.g. " https://www.google.com/about/" shows just "[lock] google.com". Firefox and Opera show the full domain but gray out everything in the entire URL except the root-level domain, so "www." is gray. Just saying, de-emphasizing and hiding parts of the URL is clearly a trend. This isn't just a Google thing.

De-emphasizing is fine, hiding alltogether is not -- for both protocols and subdomains.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #12

Yo, this is... going too far, c'mon now. While sure, www seems odd now, it's still a subdomain and we're inching into territory of obscuring things that matter for small gains in end-user perception that aren't _that_ impactful.

This is not only obscuring. This is plain breaking tons of stuff for people.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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But when using HTTP(S), you nearly always expect the "www." domain and the root domain to host the same content. It's very, very rare that this isn't the case. Chrome appears to be hiding "m.", too, which is unfortunate (as would api. or beta. being hidden), but "www." is such boilerplate for HTTP at this point that I don't think it matters whether it's displayed or not.

I think it matters, quite a bit actually. My expectation as a user is that the URL I see in the bar is the URL of the site I'm visiting. If it's not accurate, then why show it at all?

>If it's not accurate, then why show it at all?

Don't give them any ideas. They've been moving towards this path for a long time. Full paths being hidden from URLs could be up next.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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But when using HTTP(S), you nearly always expect the "www." domain and the root domain to host the same content. It's very, very rare that this isn't the case. Chrome appears to be hiding "m.", too, which is unfortunate (as would api. or beta. being hidden), but "www." is such boilerplate for HTTP at this point that I don't think it matters whether it's displayed or not.

If it doesnt matter, why even remove it?

Because it's added visual noise that 99% of end users don't care about and don't need to care about.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #274

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Because arguments aren't always useless like in your example. Might as well just do away with the whole URL bar and just have a green checkmark if Chrome thinks it's the site you want. I mean, why should a user see "Wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" when all they care about is "This is the Wikipedia Page for Canada"?

I know you’re being sarcastic, but if chrome could, with perfect accuracy, indicate if this was “the site you want”, why not do away with the url? Mind you, I’m not suggesting to do away with linking, as some rando suggested this implies. (While chrome doesn’t show the protocol prefix, it still copies the prefix when you copy the url, so imagine a similar ui.) But for most users, wouldn’t a ui that shows “server iden…

You're making a hypothetical based on "with perfect accuracy"... but the much simpler change here (www vs. no www) is not done "with perfect accuracy", as clearly outlined by a bunch of comments in this thread.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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Do you get something at http://pool.ntp.org ? My blowser times out as does telnetting to port 80

ntp is UDP so telnet isn't going to work. Try this: $ ntpdate -d pool.ntp.org

Thanks. The URL's protocol element threw me for a loop.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#370
post #220

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Those go to the same place for me

Some small subset of pool servers run an HTTP server that redirects you to www. Not all of them. You just got lucky.

That's exactly right. www.pool.ntp.org is the project site. pool.ntp.org is for getting an NTP server. Which one you get will depend on your location and random chance. That server will run NTP, but what it happens to run on port 80, if anything, is up to the operator of the server.
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