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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by estearum »

alightsoul wrote: post #276
solenoid0937 wrote: post #221

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It has got to be one of the most insane takes I've read on HN, which to be fair has been trending towards "unhinged" when it comes to Anthropic and AI safety. Compute multipliers are like a quant firm's trading algorithms. They're the crown jewels, the whole alpha of the lab. If you leak them, the lab dies. Protecting them does not make Dario a villain, it's literally his job. It's also Sam's job, Denis's job, Mira's…

So how can Deepseek publish them without killing themselves?

Because they are a state-owned enterprise tasked with destroying the aforementioned alpha of private American labs...?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by estearum »

cyanydeez wrote: post #288
layla5alive wrote: post #26

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https://archive.ph/NEwVz "However, these inference optimizations, which rival Anthropic refers to as “compute multipliers,” are a big focus for all the labs. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has been publicly talking about the concept since at least mid-2023, when he said on a podcast that the company limits “the number of people who are aware of a given compute multiplier” because it could give other AI labs a leg up if t…

Keep in mind, these tech leaders have deluded themselves with the infinite jest of "effective altrusim" which can effective ignore any problem today for some imagined future problem that they're solving. So if they have to enslave the human race because there's a super killer asteroid 10 million lightyears away heading towards us, they'll do it, because obviously, saving future humanity is the only thing that makes s…

Side note for other readers: Parent is describing a reductio ad absurdum of utilitarianism, which is a distinct (but sometimes overlapping) worldview from effective altruism.

The primary effective altruism cause areas are extremely acute and high-scale problems like malaria, vaccine distribution, and factory farming

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by Shorel »

ob12er wrote: post #305
Shorel wrote: post #167

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I'm using local models in Ollama for most things and only use the paid corporate account when my local model gets stuck.

for code as well? which local model are u using for coding

I'm using both qwen3-coder-next and glm-4.7-flash:bf16. I have gemma4 downloaded but haven't used it much.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by derdi »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #297
wjnc wrote: post #155

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I’m in Finance and learned pretty quickly that to point out the implicit future cost raises based on the cost the LLM-providers need to recoup was unpopular at best (STFU better describes the situation). Running full force into a bear trap.

This is wrong. Token costs for the same model rapidly collapse over a year. Hardware inflation is a thing but not bad enough to outweigh the massive impact of software optimizations. Tokens billed at API prices are profitable for openAI and anthropic today and it only get more lucrative every month for them as their inference costs fall. If it weren’t for continuous massive training runs taking larger and larger cape…

> Tokens billed at API prices are profitable for openAI and anthropic today

That's nice for them. What's less nice for them is that big customers are figuring out (some faster, some more slowly) that they don't want to pay API prices, or at least only for a much smaller number of tokens.

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Post by bigyabai »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #227
bigyabai wrote: post #94

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It's the Tragedy of the Commons. There will always be a vacuum of predatory bullshit that can be filled, and the victor is always the biggest sociopath. Rockefeller, Cecil Rhodes, Elon Musk, it's the same traceable pattern all the way back through history. It's not that everyone is like this, but that a few crafty marketeers are able to ruin it for everyone. Why should I treat Sam and Dario with special white gloves?…

The only reason Chinese labs release their research is because they are behind. They lose nothing by doing so because the alpha has already been discovered. This is not hard to understand. Do you really think DeepSeek would publish their algorithms if they led the American companies? Lmao.

Except this is clearly not true. Opus-tier models like GLM 5.2 have their weights freely available.

Even when they're reaching parity with American models, Z.ai, Qwen and Deepseek are upholding their end of the bargain. I'd criticize them too, if they were due any scrutiny.

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Post by bigyabai »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #103
bigyabai wrote: post #49

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> He sure did seem to speed run the 'tech leader with scruples' to 'tech villain' path! What kind of rosy-eyed chump believes in the "tech leader with scruples" bullshit? It always lies. Did some people just ignore Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook's sociopathy, somehow? Did anyone buy into their "privacy is a human right" nonsense?

Zuckerberg never had scruples, and everyone knew that from the start.

I thought this stuff was common knowledge. I didn't expect to make people angry by insinuating that Nadella, Cook and Pichai are also socipaths, but I guess we have a bit further to fall before people learn the lesson.

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Post by satvikpendem »

throwaway27448 wrote: post #204
satvikpendem wrote: post #162

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If you follow AI news you'd know what these are easily, or even just look at the top posts in the last month on HN to see. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=2&prefix=fa...

This wouldn't be necessary with descriptive product names

There is a reason brand names exist and why Coca-Cola does not say syrupy fizzy caramel like drink on the can.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by satvikpendem »

alightsoul wrote: post #298
satvikpendem wrote: post #159

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The US can just ban Chinese weights being used in US companies.

There's no need for a ban. There's already no use at all of Chinese models in the US simply because they're Chinese.

That's false, there are many companies using Chinese models in the US, Airbnb for example.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-20/airbnb-s-...

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Post by threecheese »

Cider9986 wrote: post #39
lawgimenez wrote: post #10

No Twitter, what’s he responding to?

Check out LibRedirect or Predirect (MV3), it automatically redirects youtube, X, etc links to privacy-respecting frontends. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44344246 107 comments, 1 year ago.

The LibRedirect link in that post is 404

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by elAhmo »

This is such a sad state of the industry that a reply to a tweet is now considered like an announcement by the company.

No context, nothing, just a title and a random link to a tweet, which has a seemingly relevant response from someone who works at OpenAI I guess.

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