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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Precisely none of it is related to LLMs. It's related to the political situation and the possibility of trade war and tariffs.

And actual war, given the threats to Greenland. But especially that Microsoft blocked the work email of the ICC lead prosecutor for political reasons, that has all alarm bells ringing.

Given how bad the US military performed against Iran, its pretty clear that any hostilities started by the US against NATO, would finish with a takeover of Washington within...2 weeks...

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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> that's pretty funny seeing how allies of the USA are constantly hostile toward Americans at every turn 457 British solders dead in Afghanistan supporting US operations beg to differ. Mate, seriously, step away from the propaganda and pay attention to what is happening to your democracy. Then you might understand why your allies are losing trust.

It should be a matter of shame, not pride, to the British that they followed a jingoistic US into a needless war in Afghanistan which achieved nothing but much senseless death.

What makes you say that wars are unnecessary? You don't get to see what would have happened in the absence of a war. Keeping some countries like Iran in check by restricting their arsenal, or weakening their economies and military capabilities seems absolutely necessary for world peace for example.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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> Definitely a change, because it is not something I can recall being important just a couple of years ago. I work as a consultant and freelancer across a bunch of companies, some American but mostly European ones. Last ~8 months or so, the sentiment about "Hosting our data in EU or even our own country" has drastically changed, I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before. The amount o…

Surely there would have been mumblings in certain sectors of the EU since the first Trump administration? It’s just that they started to execute now?

Yeah, AWS even was trying to found a EU sovereign cloud precisely for this reason.

https://aws.eu/

I haven't heard of anyone moving to this, though.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Let's face it. Trump 2 is about dismantling democracy. The administration radiates hostility and aggression to anything democratic. In the new national security policy the EU is the adversary of the US. If that isn't a wake-up call.

> Trump 2 is about dismantling democracy Seems strange to me that not everyone, including republicans, aren't aware of this, when he's pretty outspoken about not wanting any more elections, and how "if you vote for me this time, it'll be the last time you have to vote". If a presidential candidate anywhere else was openly talking about wanting to remove elections and democracy in the country (not to mention triggered…

Sources for those quotes would be very helpful for anyone interested in this, because I’ve certainly never heard this before.

We’re two years into his term and democracy does not appear to be dismantled, or even remotely at risk of being dismantled. I also expect the same or similar accusations to be leveled at the next Republican candidate, who if elected, will also not “dismantle democracy”.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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This is really cool, just for curiosity though is Stripe not considered EU anymore? I know it was created in Ireland and didn't hear anything about it changing ?

Irish here, it was never EU or Irish. The Collisons are Irish but Stripe is an American company. The profits are ultimately repatriated to the United States.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... EU Fairness dictates they all need to get a slice of the pie so this will be interesting (and by that I mean absurdly hilarious).

> EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: > Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... You snark, but is this not EXACTLY how a sizeable majority of modern apps are made? Substitute in some random tech stacks, cloud providers, or buzzwords. Database runs in AWS, front end in Nuxt, Operations in Claude.

Also, Airbus is doing very well last I checked.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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As a European: yes definitely. And that won't be fixed if you choose a sane administration again. There can always be another Trump. It will take significant time to build trust again.

> It will take significant time to build trust again and nothing of value was lost. What did the US get out of the relationship?

gestures confusingly towards all the American digital services used in EU

I thought that was exactly what is being talked about here.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Very nice to see this more and more. Recently the German province of Schleswig-Holstei also moved almost their complete stack to European alternatives.

One note: for European payment coverage there is Rootline available. But I have to put up the disclaimer that I work at Rootline.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. For example, they are discussing restricting VPN access for 'child protection'[1] [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_AT...

> While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. It makes a lot more sense if you realize pretty much the sole motivation behind all this digital virtue signaling is "put my data somewhere Trump isn't." Notice how no one really lists contingencies for "what if the EU goes off the ra…

The political systems of the USA and the EU are extremely dissimilar. The US, by virtue of their "winner takes it all" mentality, is evidently pretty vulnerable to a mad leader single-handedly destroying decades of progress. Whereas the EU isn't a single entity, but a federation of 27 member states without central leadership. There is no "EU government", and thus no single corruptible entity that could turn "insane".
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