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Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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It’s hilarious to me that you’re under the impression you speak for a lot of people and that your anger over my personal views is so vitriolic.

You should also review the code of conduct for this website and learn to communicate in good faith if you expect to ever be taken seriously. Until then, I hope things get better for you man.

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It is a leap of faith that they are speaking in good faith as a useful idiot.

I’m simply a regular guy who got exactly what I wanted when Trump was elected. Of course I’m speaking in good faith. That’s why misguided, bad faith participants flag my reasonable remarks or send insults instead of staying on topic. It’s just emotional meltdowns.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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If my book isn’t in your LLM, then prove it and don’t use my book to train your LLM.

>don’t use my book to train your LLM. What makes you think you are entitled to tell people what they can and cant do with data they purchased (or otherwise acquired) from you. Extremely honest question. I just cant put myself in your shoes. Like if I had written anything useful I would be overwhelmingly flattered that my content be considered so worthy for inclusion. Your profile suggests that you are a philosopher.…

> What makes you think you are entitled to tell people what they can and cant do with data they purchased

Hundreds of years of copyright law. I bought a copy of Windows, but I’m not allowed to modify that data with a cracker and sell a bootleg DVD of it.

I should edit to clarify that I’m not a big fan of Lars Ulrich or Disney, but I don’t think we’re going to get a win here for the recreational IP pirates. What’s more likely is that we’ll end up with some Frankenstein law that favors both Mikey Mouse and OpenAI, and you and I will neither get free movies nor the ability to earn a living off of our creative labor.

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probably this, since it was 7 years after he was convicted for prostituting a minor, so its hard to believe any excuse saying they didn't know his background: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-secret-pic-wild-... Also that there are over 2,000 emails with Peter Thiel. Or maybe the part where Sergey Brin was helping Epstein shop for an aircraft carrier (also after conviction). Honestly it was incredibly reve…

It’s terrible that Epstein did that. And Thiel is a really odd duck, that’s for sure.

Do you have any evidence that files related to Trump were held back? I don’t believe that’s the case.

He’s mentioned in many of the files. I found it particularly interesting that Trump was an FBI informant that worked with the government to get Epstein convicted.

Have you done more than Trump has done to stop human trafficking? If so, please be specific.

And thank you. I’m really happy that Trump was elected. I found this year’s tax credits for social security income, overtime, and car payments on American vehicles to be especially great. Most favored nation drug pricing was also a really impressive achievement!

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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Because meta will delay any case for several years. Then the lawyers will settle for 1/100th to 1/1000th of what they stole quietly. Meta will rebrand and change its name again just like it did after its last major scandal. No accountability for rich people has funny patterns like this.

They don’t need to rebrand - “Meta” (after / exceeding) is a catch all for whatever they’re being meta at today: piracy / privacy infringement / theft / slop production etc.

Nah, it’s short for metastasis. The only apt name for a company that is after growth an any cost

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https://www.readtangle.com/the-everything-everywhere-all-at-... This article doesn’t even remotely itemize all of Trumps corruption, but it’s long and extremely damning. I would hope that anyone still supporting this administration reads this article and does some introspection on why. I’m guessing that ship probably sailed 6 years ago, though.

None of that is really very damning at all. I was excited to support Trump from day one. When people claimed he supported white supremacy, and it turned out that he condemned it out loud in press conferences countless times, I stopped taking the criticism too seriously. The Russian agent allegations increased my skepticism. Then when his opposition claimed he instructed the nation to inject bleach I just tuned it out for good. None of it is real. Egg prices were the big issue until they drastically decreased. It will be the same with gas prices.

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The problem is people at large companies creating these AI models, wanting the freedom to copy artists’ works when using it, but these large companies also want to keep copyright protection intact, for their regular business activities. They want to eat the cake and have it too. And they are arguing for essentially eliminating copyright for their specific purpose and convenience, when copyright has virtually never be…

>wanting the freedom to copy artists’ works when using it Learning from copyrighted content is legal - for both humans and AI. If Meta is in hot water for anything, it's piracy and/or storage of copyrighted material.

By ”using it”, I mean using the AI model.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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What's frustrating is all those kids who got criminal charges for running MP3 sites back in the day [1], and this guy rips off every piece of media in existence and will walk away literally because he's too rich to be charged. [1] See, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace#Legal_pro...

https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/23/zuckerstreisand/ Cory Doctorow wrote a nice summary of the Zuckerstreisand book by Sarah Wynn-Williams. "First, Facebook becomes too big to fail. Then, Facebook becomes too big to jail. Finally, Facebook becomes too big to care."

> Eventually, [Zuckerberg] manages to sit next to Xi at a dinner where he begs Xi to name his next child. Xi turns him down.

That Mark never fails to deliver.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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All those lawsuits against students who downloaded but didn't even redistribute mp3s. Less than a fair use transformation. Just the file download itself. ... Lesson learned: those students should have stolen millions instead!

The real distinguishing criterion is whether you are super rich or not.

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What's frustrating is all those kids who got criminal charges for running MP3 sites back in the day [1], and this guy rips off every piece of media in existence and will walk away literally because he's too rich to be charged. [1] See, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace#Legal_pro...

I just don't see why everyone seems to not be cheering that perhaps we are not going to go back to the days where all those kids are going to be re charged. It almost feels like everyone wants to go back to labels carpet bombing students with lawsuits[0] [0] https://w2.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaa-v-thepeople.html

Because there is no reasonable expectation that we are not going back to those days. In fact, we are more likely to go back to those days then not.

Those students are not Zuckenberg. They will not be treated as Zuckenberg. The legal theories that apply to them dont apply to Zuckenberg and vice versa. They do not have money to mount defense and if they do, they will be in debt till the end of their lives.

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