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Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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Funny how people are suddenly on Elsevier's side. It's clear to me that AI training is transformative fair use under existing law. Maybe this will be the case to prove it.

Illegally obtaining copyrighted materials is usually the issue not the transformation part

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2024, voters signaled that they don't care about corruption when they reelected the most corrupt administration in American history. Since then, there has been a widespread understanding that the rich will not face consequences in this country. For example, take a look at the Trump administration's suppression of the Epstein files. Or the Trump families cryptocurrency schemes. Or the ridiculous ballroom. Anyway, t…

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probably this, since it was 7 years after he was convicted for prostituting a minor, so its hard to believe any excuse saying they didn't know his background: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epstein-secret-pic-wild-...

Also that there are over 2,000 emails with Peter Thiel. Or maybe the part where Sergey Brin was helping Epstein shop for an aircraft carrier (also after conviction). Honestly it was incredibly revealing that none of these people care that he raped kids. I would love to see the Trump files which were withheld but clearly thats never gonna happen.

Anyway, congrats to everyone involved on the MAGA golden age!

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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post #179

Too rich to care.

Honestly, too rich potentially off fraud

Consider the case of someone who gets banned but Facebook keeps collecting money on their business account. Or consider the case of Facebook's video metrics scandal, or... whatever. It's a little fuzzy translating how much value equates to how much stock price equates to how much real-world is-this-useful-to-me but it does matter when FB is accused of marketing (Aaron Greenspan, thinkcomp, has brought this up, in his 2019 testimony to UK parliament) advertising to more people in a region or country than actually physically exist

So fraud builds on itself, you have more fraud money to pay lawyers to try to defend you in fraud cases

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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A lot of people would be very pleased if this leads to Zuckerberg getting even the statutory minimum damages ($750?) on each infringement. The previous infringement case with Anthropic said that while training an AI was transformative and not itself an infringement, pirating works for that purpose still was definitely infringement all by itself. The settlement was $1.5bn, so close to $3k for each of the 500k they pir…

That’ll keep him from even thinking of doing something like that again! /s

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2024, voters signaled that they don't care about corruption when they reelected the most corrupt administration in American history. Since then, there has been a widespread understanding that the rich will not face consequences in this country. For example, take a look at the Trump administration's suppression of the Epstein files. Or the Trump families cryptocurrency schemes. Or the ridiculous ballroom. Anyway, t…

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https://www.readtangle.com/the-everything-everywhere-all-at-...

This article doesn’t even remotely itemize all of Trumps corruption, but it’s long and extremely damning.

I would hope that anyone still supporting this administration reads this article and does some introspection on why. I’m guessing that ship probably sailed 6 years ago, though.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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post #36

Just gonna say... Aaron Swartz faced years of prison time and ultimately decided to take his own life... for downloading scientific journal articles ... to share freely with the world (aka not even profiting from it). But a multi-billion dollar corporation downloading millions of copyrighted creative works so that they can reshape the entire labor market by training a new type of artificial intelligence model on that…

Aaron Swartz was treated unjustly because copyright sucks. we should oppose such laws and treatment, not wield them as retributive tools against our opponents it is wrong to advocate for everyone to be treated equally unjustly. better to advocate for the removal of the bad laws/structures

It would be easier to advocate for the reform of those laws if they were actually applied evenly.

I’m not calling for its use as a “retributive tool”. Just that it be applied evenly.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

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Nothing will happen to him/Meta while DJT is president. He bought the best protection around for breaking the law.

I'm not sure what Trump's levers are with this since it's a civil matter. There's no DOJ--it's publishers and an individual vs. Meta.

He likes sham investigations of attorneys general.

Re: Zuckerberg 'Personally Authorized and Encouraged' Meta's Copyright Infringement

#200

Funny how people are suddenly on Elsevier's side. It's clear to me that AI training is transformative fair use under existing law. Maybe this will be the case to prove it.

Absorb all "our" IP without consent, in doing so remove "our" own source of revenue, and then repackage it as their own product. Not really fair use IMO.
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