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Only if we're bringing back Token Ring, too.
While we're at what about older physical layers? Coaxial based stuff seems cool in 2026
Isn’t that what MoCa is for?
IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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Anonymous rate limits for us are skewed towards preventing abusive behavior. Most users do not have a problem, even there is a CGNAT on IPv4. For IPv6, if we block on /128 and a single machine gets /64, a malicious user has near infinite IPs. In the case of Linode and others that do /64 for a whole data center, it's easy to rate limit the whole thing. Wrong assumption or not, it is an issue that is made worse by IPv6
I don't doubt your experience, but I wouldn't expect it to continue. I don't think Tuna-Fish is correct that "most" of the IPv4 world is behind CGNAT, but that does appear to be the trend. You can't even assume hosting providers give their subscribers their own IPv4 addresses anymore. On the other hand, there's a chance providers like Linode will eventually wise up and start giving subscribers their own /64 - there a…
Yeah, absolutely no expectations for the future. My point was more that while there may be clear benefits for users, IPv6 presents real problems for service operators with no clear solutions in sight.
Given that GitHub also offers free services for anonymous users, I can imagine they face similar problems. The easiest move is simply to just not bother, and I can't blame them for it.
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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ISPs often fail to do this because there is always someone in the hierarchy who says, "nobody is demanding it."
Nobody is demanding IPv4 either. Or Ethernet. People buy "Wi-Fi", literally "Wi-Fi", not Internet access.
It has been interesting to me to see how the usage of "my wifi bill" instead of "my internet bill" has shifted.
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
#354It has barely hit 50% and it's already plateauing. This adoption rate is ridiculous despite basically all network interfaces supporting it. I thought I would see IPv6 take over in my lifetime as the default for platforms to build on but I can see I was wrong. Enterprise and commercial companies are literally going to hold back internet progress around 60 to 75 years because it's in their best interest to ensure users…
Since when was there ever a plan to disable IPv4 on the Internet? Just because IPv6 is around doesn't mean that IPv4 is going to go away.
Why would we keep around a whole separate Internet? Dual stack was always only intended for the transition period.
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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> End users shouldn't need to set up 6to4 tunneling. It should be ISPs doing that to prepare for the transition. Which is what ISP are doing with 464XLAT deployments. IPv6-mostly networking and IPv4-as-a-service are things that are happening in real world right now.
Yeah in Japan my ISP even lets me choose which IPv4 provider I want to use, as the fiber network is IPv6-native and IPv4 is "just another service" like IPTV.
Wow, that’s very cool! Do you know how that works? Do they just connect you to a NAT64 gateway of your choice?
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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A non-trivial minority of the time, they don't support IPv4 either!
GitHub is at the point where it immediately rate limits me if I try to look at a project's commit history without being logged in, as in the first time I even open a single URL to the commit history, I get "Too Many Requests" from GitHub thrown at me. I don't know if my work's antivirus stack is causing GitHub to be suspicious of me, but it's definitely egregious.
Your work is probably all exiting through the same IP, you competing with others on the same IP is causing the rate limit.
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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How far below is the question. It could level out at 60% - that is believable. However it can't level out at 99% - Somewhere around 95% major sites will decide IPv4 isn't worth supporting and they will just ignore that final 5% of customers, which will force them to upgrade - which in turn will give others confidence to remove their final 4% of customers - until IPv4 dies.
There are still ascii dialup bulletin boards out there. and operating model T’s. IPv4 will be around for longer than you or I.
There are also still Telex and X.25 networks around there, not to forget the whole public telephone network!
But at some point, getting a native connection to all of these started becoming increasingly rare, and now these are largely emulated/tunneled on top of IP. The same can happen for IPv4.
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
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Unfortunately my ISP here in Europe is not one of those offering IPv6.
Mine does and it works so well that I actually have to turn it off when working from home as a bunch of the third party servers at work doesn't have any support for it.
That sounds more like broken support then. Not having any support at all (i.e. A records or v4 literals only) should just send you to whatever v4 transition technology your ISP offers, no?
Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark
#360It has barely hit 50% and it's already plateauing. This adoption rate is ridiculous despite basically all network interfaces supporting it. I thought I would see IPv6 take over in my lifetime as the default for platforms to build on but I can see I was wrong. Enterprise and commercial companies are literally going to hold back internet progress around 60 to 75 years because it's in their best interest to ensure users…
Is there a reason why adoption has been so abysmally slow? Like surely all the big players have updated their networking equipment by now, and surely every piece of enterprise-grade kit sold in the last 20 years has supported v6. The only arguments I've ever heard against ipv6 that made any sense are that: 1: it's hard to remember addresses, which is mayyyyybe valid for homelab enthusiast types, but for medium scale…
> it's hard to remember addresses
We desperately need a standardized protocol to look up addresses via names. Something hierarchical, maybe.
> with v6 you can't rely on NAT as an ersatz firewall
Why would you not just use a regular firewall? Any device that is able to act as a NAT could act as a firewall, with less complexity at that.