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Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark

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Post by holowoodman »

alibarber wrote: post #238
stackghost wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason why adoption has been so abysmally slow? Like surely all the big players have updated their networking equipment by now, and surely every piece of enterprise-grade kit sold in the last 20 years has supported v6. The only arguments I've ever heard against ipv6 that made any sense are that: 1: it's hard to remember addresses, which is mayyyyybe valid for homelab enthusiast types, but for medium scale…

> 1: it's hard to remember addresses fd::1 is perfectly valid internal IPv6 address (along with fd::2 ... fd::n)

fd::1 is somewhere in the reserved ::/8 space where various stuff like old ipv4 mapped addresses and localhost reside. What you probably mean is something like fd00::1, but that is something you shouldn't use, because 'fd00::/8' is a probabilistically unique local address (ULA) block. You are supposed to create a /48 net by appending 40 random bits to fd00::/8. Of course, if your fair dice roll lands on all zeroes, and you are ok with probable collisions in case of a network merge, you are fine ;)

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Post by MiscIdeaMaker99 »

usui wrote: post #5

It has barely hit 50% and it's already plateauing. This adoption rate is ridiculous despite basically all network interfaces supporting it. I thought I would see IPv6 take over in my lifetime as the default for platforms to build on but I can see I was wrong. Enterprise and commercial companies are literally going to hold back internet progress around 60 to 75 years because it's in their best interest to ensure users…

Since when was there ever a plan to disable IPv4 on the Internet? Just because IPv6 is around doesn't mean that IPv4 is going to go away.

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Post by nlitened »

jl6 wrote: post #105

Everyone's saying progress is slow, but maybe this is just how long it takes to do massive decentralized global migrations affecting billions of people. What are we comparing against? Maybe the ICE-to-EV transition?

For example, compared to migration from 3G to 4G networks. As I understand, from the launch of 4G to complete shutdown of 3G it took around 12—14 years.

Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark

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Post by TekMol »

I still do not support IPv6 on my servers and I think I will skip it and wait for IPv8:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html

Avoiding a dual-stack and making IPv4 a part of whatever superseeds it seems like the right choice to me.

IPv6 always seemed to me like throwing away all existing telephone numbers, just to support longer numbers.

Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark

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Post by m-s-y »

tialaramex wrote: post #257
throw0101a wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is (AIUI) 100% IPv6-only on their internal network, and has been for many years: * https://engineering.fb.com/2017/01/17/production-engineering... * https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2014/09/facebook-launch... IPv4 is actually the "leftover" stuff they have to deal with at the front end. But they are an eye-balls heavy service, with a lot of mobile devices, which also tend to be IPv6-native.

It also just takes actual policy will. Somebody has to actually say "No" when the supplier who promised an IPv6 product says afterwards actually they meant IPv6 "ready" and they should have put an asterisk because really only the next version will be "ready", and er, so the product they've delivered doesn't actually work with IPv6 but that's fine right? "No". Not every human is psychologically prepared to do that. Th…

I have found that it is incredibly satisfying to whip out the “no” card.

I have also found that an uncomfortable number of people do not consider it appropriate in any way shape or form. Even when it’s ultimately your call and no one else’s.

Folks don’t really like waves. They like looking at them from the shore, but freak out when it’s their turn to hang 10

Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark

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Post by falsemyrmidon »

lmm wrote: post #49
usui wrote: post #5

It has barely hit 50% and it's already plateauing. This adoption rate is ridiculous despite basically all network interfaces supporting it. I thought I would see IPv6 take over in my lifetime as the default for platforms to build on but I can see I was wrong. Enterprise and commercial companies are literally going to hold back internet progress around 60 to 75 years because it's in their best interest to ensure users…

I think we'll hit a tipping point soon, just like with Python3 - for years and years it seemed almost stalled, then it became easier to start with python3 than python2 and suddenly everyone migrated.

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Re: IPv6 traffic crosses the 50% mark

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Post by tialaramex »

josh3736 wrote: post #77
purerandomness wrote: post #52

IPv6 will never make it. Maybe IPv8 [0], which IPv6 should have actually looked like: > 1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 [0] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-00.html

For observers, this draft was posted to HN earlier but quickly flagged and removed because the linked "IPv8" draft is absolute bunk. See the removed thread for details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47788857

Having read that thread, I guess one of the small upsides of the world I live in is that "FIFA Peace Prize" is now available as a joke award reference. FIFA really hit it out of the park there in a way that even their normal legendary levels of corruption couldn't imagine.

Edited: In hindsight I notice that "hit it out of the park" is the wrong sport metaphor for FIFA, but I stand by it anyway.

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