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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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every human generation built upon the slop of the previous one but we appreciated that, we called it "standing on the shoulders of giants"

Nothing conveys better the idea of a solid foundation to build upon than the word ‘slop’.

Every foundation needs some time to settle.

- Sir, this is an elevator.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> for every theory of relativity the is the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages or today If Einstein came up with relativity by standing on "the religious non-sense and superstitions of the medieval ages," you'd have a point.

If we have billions of AIs one might pick the correct learning materials. Same way human Einstein did.

Depends what you mean with "AI". Actual intelligence? Yeah, maybe. LLM? No, they don't actually reason, an activity that Einstein did a lot of and without which coming up with his theory would have been impossible. He didn't just go on a random walk like what LLM temperature is doing.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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I feel like this is the kind of dodgy take that'll be dispelled by half an hour's concerted use of the thing you're talking about short of massive technological regression, there's literally never going to be a situation where the use of what amounts to a second brain with access to all the world's public information is not going to be incredibly marketable I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better…

> I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better cousin and then come back and repeat this comment I always try every new technology, to understand how it works, and expand my perspective. I've written a few simple websites with Cursor (one mistake and it wiped everything, and I could never get it to produce any acceptable result again), tried writing the script for a YouTube video with ChatGPT and Clau…

simply, you're using them wrongly

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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There doesn't need to be any difference in treatment between AI slop and human slop. The point isn't to keep AI out - it's to keep spam and slop out. It doesn't matter whether it's produced by a being made of carbon or silicon. If someone can consistently produce high-quality content with AI assistance, so be it. Let them. Most don't, though.

I think the main issue is that when content is hand written you can be certain someone put at least the effort it takes to write into it. And while some people write fast, I would assume that at least means they have read their own writing once. AIslop you can produce faster than you're able to read it. This makes it incredibly costly to filter out in comparison. It just messes so much with the signal to noise ratio…

Bring AI-written is a proxy for being spam. Almost all AI-written content is spam and that's why it's bad.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> I dare you to try building a project with Cursor or a better cousin and then come back and repeat this comment I always try every new technology, to understand how it works, and expand my perspective. I've written a few simple websites with Cursor (one mistake and it wiped everything, and I could never get it to produce any acceptable result again), tried writing the script for a YouTube video with ChatGPT and Clau…

simply, you're using them wrongly

Let's assume that's true — I'm just bad at using AI.

If that were the case, everyone else's AI creations would have a significantly higher quality than my own.

But that's not what we observe in the real world. They're just as bad as what I managed to create with AI.

The only ones I see who are happy with the AI output are people who don't care about the quality about the end result, or the details of it, just the semblance of a result.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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> Why this particular stand? First, any stand is better than whataboutism and just sitting there doing nothing. Second, this stand results from my thoughts. It is my stand. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Third, in the history of the modern world there were very few black&white situations where there was one side which was clearly the aggressor. This is one of them.

> First, any stand is better than whataboutism and just sitting there doing nothing. I definitely disagree with this. There are many cases where you might take the wrong stand, especially where you do not have detailed knowledge of the issue you re taking a stand over.

> wrong stand

But that's the whole point, isn't it? What is "wrong"? You decide.

You see people in a peaceful country getting invaded and being bombed, shot, raped and tortured? You decide if this is "wrong". I'm just saying that you should decide, rather than say "but what about something else".

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).

Why is supporting Yandex, who are involved in Russian politics and linked to the ruling regime, a neutral decision? That is very much a political decision, in the same way that working with US tech companies is a political decision. You need to decide what you're willing to tolerate and where your ethical lines are drawn; the alternative isn't neutrality, it's nihilism.

Because when Ferret7446 says "neutral", they mean "anything that doesn't harm them". Centrism is a lie.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Projects like this remind me of a plot point in the Cyberpunk 2077 game universe. The "first internet" got too infected with dangerous AIs, so much so that a massive firewall needed to be built, and a "new" internet was built that specifically kept out the harmful AIs. (Or something like that: it's been awhile since I played the game, and I don't remember the specific details of the story.) It makes me wonder if a ne…

The problem really is that it is impossible to verify that the content someone uploads came from their mind and not a computer program. And at some point probably all content is at least influenced by AI. The real issue is also not that I used chatgpt to look up a synonym or asked a question before writing an article, the problem is when I copy paste the content and claim I wrote it.

The solution is not to be able to upload content. Extremely dumb services, basic trusted information sharing. Just like a newspaper.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Projects like this remind me of a plot point in the Cyberpunk 2077 game universe. The "first internet" got too infected with dangerous AIs, so much so that a massive firewall needed to be built, and a "new" internet was built that specifically kept out the harmful AIs. (Or something like that: it's been awhile since I played the game, and I don't remember the specific details of the story.) It makes me wonder if a ne…

If you play it again, make sure not to miss the Blackwall gateway quickhack:

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Blackwall_Gateway

Absolutely brutal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD5z3GmQRXQ

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I also noticed how simple the "new web" is when interacting with it. Of course, that's a game mechanic, but also kinda makes sense.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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If we have billions of AIs one might pick the correct learning materials. Same way human Einstein did.

Depends what you mean with "AI". Actual intelligence? Yeah, maybe. LLM? No, they don't actually reason, an activity that Einstein did a lot of and without which coming up with his theory would have been impossible. He didn't just go on a random walk like what LLM temperature is doing.

Who knew that such a huge amount of software development problems can be solved without ever "actually" reasoning.
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