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Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by redleader55 »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #41

It sounds extreme, but I support banning usage of anything that runs software for children under 13. Under 13, children are still developing their minds, it is important for their welfare that they learn how to function without technological dependencies. You know how in school they used to tell us we can't use calculators to solve math problems? Same thing. It can't be done by individual parents either, because then…

I started learning how to use a computer at the age of 10. This is my career today and has been my hobby for the last 35 years. Learning how to use a computer is like learning math, it needs to happen early.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by hdgvhicv »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #302
trey-jones wrote: post #53

As a parent who gave my oldest child a (very used) smartphone just before she turned 14, I would be in favor of making smartphones illegal under age 15 (or some other number, higher or lower I don't care). I'm pretty sure they're worse than cigarettes for the future of humanity.

Or parents could just take responsibility for their own children and not buy them a phone instead of outsourcing their parental responsibilities to the government.

So no social life for kids then?

It’s not 1995 any more. My 13 year old gets social contact doing things like playing Minecraft with people from school, organised via WhatsApp with group chats and then yelling about diamond swords and lava chickens or whatever.

There’s then the simple reality that most schools require smartphones for things like homework. It’s set on devices you can only access via an app. Ok maybe you could run some form of android emulator and maybe that works and maybe they can’t do the homework on the bus on the way home and instead can just stare out of the window, but then the teachers tell them to do something in class.

Then once they leave home at 18 and get introduced to something which has been banned yet is completely normal, they go overboard anyway.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by b112 »

blitzar wrote: post #346
willio58 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Teachers are seeing the massive benefits from banning phones entirely during school hours. I think once we get data from bans for certain things like social media for kids, we'll all want to get on the wave.

Once the data is in bosses will see the massive benefits and ban mobile phones entirely during work hours.

Good.

I recall "no personal calls" at work as a rule, in the old days. Inbound emergencies allowed, of course.

Why do people think looking at their personal email, or looking at their phone is acceptable at work?

It's no different than sitting, reading a magazine pre-Internet. The very idea would have been absurd.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by illiac786 »

willio58 wrote: post #84
trey-jones wrote: post #53

As a parent who gave my oldest child a (very used) smartphone just before she turned 14, I would be in favor of making smartphones illegal under age 15 (or some other number, higher or lower I don't care). I'm pretty sure they're worse than cigarettes for the future of humanity.

Agreed. Teachers are seeing the massive benefits from banning phones entirely during school hours. I think once we get data from bans for certain things like social media for kids, we'll all want to get on the wave.

I am looking for data regarding this, do you have references? I need to convince my school ;)

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by yard2010 »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76
trey-jones wrote: post #53

As a parent who gave my oldest child a (very used) smartphone just before she turned 14, I would be in favor of making smartphones illegal under age 15 (or some other number, higher or lower I don't care). I'm pretty sure they're worse than cigarettes for the future of humanity.

Crazy to think how less government would need to act like a mom if there were one or two parents out there who were familiar with the word "no."

Do you have children? You are correct. But it's easier said than done.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by yard2010 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #183
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy to think how less government would need to act like a mom if there were one or two parents out there who were familiar with the word "no."

I, too, was a really great parent before having children. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-goes-viral-for-tweeting-fr... > Dorothy, who runs an Ariana Grande fan account, was suffering through a typical teenage nightmare: Her mom took away her phone. But the resourceful teen didn't let that stop her from communicating with her followers. First, she started using Twitter on her Nintendo DS, a handheld video game devi…

She would make a great entrepreneur one day, if she manages to survive the mental illness that comes with social media.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by yard2010 »

rsolva wrote: post #275

Banning personalised ads would solve a lot of the underlying incentives that drives the attention grabbing economy today. Increasing the age a few years for when young people are allow to make accounts on social media is not going to make a large difference in the big picture of things, and do not address the core problem that is the collection and abuse of massive amounts of personal data. Upping the age limit a few…

Imagine if we could just ban cancer as a society and we chose not to because it makes a few people richer than they are.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by yard2010 »

DocTomoe wrote: post #152
worldfoodgood wrote: post #12

Great. Please raise the age to 115.

You know that you can just, you know, cancel your ISP contract and live in a hut in Montana, right? HN is 'social media', btw.

The problem is not social media, it's the few people controlling it. There is no inherent problem in social media, there's an inherent problem of people caring about only their money and power and not giving a jack shit about anything else.

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Post by kmlx »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #161
amiga386 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was programming age 5 in BASIC. Raspberry Pis are the modern equivalent and I think every child should have one. > they learn how to function without technological dependencies. So like the Amish? Or are they still too technologically dependent and children need to be banned from pulleys, fulcrums, wheels, etc.?

I don't know much about the Amish, so I can't comment. Teaching kids how to code isn't all that meaningful on its own. knowing what to do once you learn how to code is. If your plan is to teach your kid how to code, teach them to solve problems without code at that age. Unless you're serious about thinking learning at age 5 vs age 13 would make a big difference. I think every kid 13 and above should have an rpi too.

> Teaching kids how to code isn't all that meaningful on its own.

it’s extraordinary meaningful as it helps in brain development.

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