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Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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You're forgetting that you're talking nation states, here. Breaking encryption is in fact the role of the people you are giving access. Sovereign delivery makes sense for _nations_.

You can use and abuse encrypted one time pads and multiple countries to guarantee it’s not retrievable.

You're assuming a level of competency that's hard to warrant at this point.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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If the US government and corporate executives had even half this level of shame, we'd have nobody left in those positions!

"suicide" in these circumstances is usually something else altogether. Even in cases it is executed by themselves, shame won't be the primary motivation.

It usually isn't but people do usually imply otherwise.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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In my twenties I worked for a "company" in Mexico that was the official QNX ditribuitor for Mexico and LatAm. I guess the only reason was that Mexico City's Metro used QNX, and every year they bought a new license, I don't know why. We also did a couple of sales in Colombia I think, but was a complete shit show. We really just sent them the software by mail, and they had all sorts of issues getting it out of customs. I did get to go to a QNX training in Canada, which was really cool. Never got to use it though.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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If the US government and corporate executives had even half this level of shame, we'd have nobody left in those positions!

"suicide" in these circumstances is usually something else altogether. Even in cases it is executed by themselves, shame won't be the primary motivation.

You may want to familiarize yourself more with the culture around this in places like South Korea and Japan.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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post #353

In my twenties I worked for a "company" in Mexico that was the official QNX ditribuitor for Mexico and LatAm. I guess the only reason was that Mexico City's Metro used QNX, and every year they bought a new license, I don't know why. We also did a couple of sales in Colombia I think, but was a complete shit show. We really just sent them the software by mail, and they had all sorts of issues getting it out of customs.…

I think you meant to post this comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45481892

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

#356
post #80

https://phrack.org/issues/72/7_md#article

Ohh side note but this was the journalist group which was blocked by proton

The timing as well is very suspicious and I think that there can be a lot of discussion about this

Right now, I am wondering about the name most tbh which might seem silly but "APT down - The North Korean files"

It seems that APT means in this case advanced persistent threat but I am not sure what they mean by Apt Down, like the fact that it got shut down by their journalism or-? I am sorry if this may seem naive and on a serious note this raises so many questions...

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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post #325

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Is encryption, almost any form, really reliable protection for a countries' government entire data? I mean, this is _the_ ultimate playground for "state level actors" -- if someday there's a hole and it turns out it takes only 20 years to decrypt the data with a country-sized supercomputer, you can bet _this_ is what multiple alien countries will try to decrypt first.

You're assuming that this needs to protect... > ... a countries' government entire data? But the bulk of the data is "boring": important to individuals, but not state security ("sorry Jiyeong, the computer doesn't know if you are a government employee. Apologies if you have rent to make this month!") There likely exists data where the risk calculation ends up differently, so that you wouldn't store it in this system.…

A foreign gov getting all your security researchers and staff's personal info with their family and tax and medical records doesn't sound great.

That's just from the top of my head. Exploiting such a trove of data doesn't sound complicated.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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https://phrack.org/issues/72/7_md#article

Woah, read the timeline at the top of this. The fire happened the very day the government ordered onsite inspection was supposed to start due to Chinese/NK hacking.

Phrack's timeline may read like it, but it wasn't an onsite inspection due to hacking, but a scheduled maintenance to replace the overdue UPS, hence battery-touching involved. Even the image they linked just says "scheduled maintenance."

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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This is the first time I see this site, who/what is phrack? A hacker group?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrack

Not sure why people downvoted you as I actually read the wikipedia and learnt a lot about phrack and how their name is sort of inspired by "phreaking,anarchy and cracking" and I think thus the name ph-ra-ck.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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post #310

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How’s that? Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking?

> Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking? WTF are you talking about? There are absolutely zero backdoors of any kind known to be in any standard open source encryption systems, and symmetric cryptography 256-bits or more is not subject to cracking by anyone or anything, not even if general purpose quantum computers are doable and prove scalable. Shor's algorithm…

As someone who’s fairly tech-literate but has a big blind spot in cryptography, I’d love to hear any suggestions you have for articles, blog posts, or smaller books on the topic!

My (rudimentary, layman) understanding is that encryption is almost like a last line of defense and should never be assumed to be unbreakable. You sound both very knowledgeable on the topic, and very confident in the safety of modern encryption. I’m thinking maybe my understanding is obsolete!

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