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Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by KolibriFly »

drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

Unless a studio is fully committed to proper Linux support (like, Feral-level), they might as well just optimize for Proton and call it a day

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by keyringlight »

Podrod wrote: post #224
giancarlostoro wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting that some games run better on Linux than on Windows and have for a few years now. Crazy.

And sometimes the Windows version runs better under Proton than the native Linux build due to the port being so poorly done which is kinda funny. Occasionally I do still run things under Windows though like Cyberpunk 2077 as I got about 15 more frames under Windows which let me bump the graphics up a bit more. Or Assassin's Creed Mirage which got me double the FPS somehow. Currently playing AssCree Shadows on Windows…

As much as linux for PC gaming has made huge strides over the past few years, it seems really hard to avoid having a dual boot to keep windows available if you're serious about the whole breadth of available games. Or if you want to avoid pitfalls on those titles that run with a list of caveats, you can go exploring on protondb and some games need a collection of commmandline tweaks to get going well. It'd be nice to have a better experience for enabling those or opt-in to commonly used configs on particular games

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by KolibriFly »

mbStavola wrote: post #139

I had tried to run BG3 on my Steam Deck a couple months back. It ran... okay. Lot's of hitches and I had to tune things way way way down, but somewhat playable. I'm very grateful that they took the time to build a native Steam Deck release for the game, not really something I had ever expected. Hopefully with this I can actually jump in and enjoy the game!

Really didn't expect a native build either, especially post-launch. Huge props to Larian for going the extra mile

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by KolibriFly »

klardotsh wrote: post #115

This 12GB update managed to trigger the bizarre Steam behavior on my Linux desktop where the game patching process pegs all cores to 100% and thrashes the disk so hard the system eventually stops allowing eg. launching new processes (though the system isn't frozen stiff like running out of RAM - switching Niri desktops is fine, but launching eg. htop hangs forever, and eventually browsers stop responding). After walk…

If you survived the warzone of your desktop’s update process, BG3 is absolutely worth diving into

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by MountainTheme12 »

atemerev wrote: post #233
ernst_klim wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure this is true tho. The games by Loki Software are still running great for me. It's a matter of skill and discipline. SDL, OpenGL and alike are very stable. The problems start when developers start to use lots of small third-party libraries and depend on particular versions of them, but IIRC on Windows it's also solved by simply shipping all the libs with the game.

Discipline? In gamedev? The industry which famously modeled trains as hats and was proud of it?

And why is that a problem if it works? What if I told you that games also don't simulate each atom individually?

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by giancarlostoro »

keyringlight wrote: post #352
Podrod wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And sometimes the Windows version runs better under Proton than the native Linux build due to the port being so poorly done which is kinda funny. Occasionally I do still run things under Windows though like Cyberpunk 2077 as I got about 15 more frames under Windows which let me bump the graphics up a bit more. Or Assassin's Creed Mirage which got me double the FPS somehow. Currently playing AssCree Shadows on Windows…

As much as linux for PC gaming has made huge strides over the past few years, it seems really hard to avoid having a dual boot to keep windows available if you're serious about the whole breadth of available games. Or if you want to avoid pitfalls on those titles that run with a list of caveats, you can go exploring on protondb and some games need a collection of commmandline tweaks to get going well. It'd be nice to…

Maybe I'm cheating by using a 1080P monitor, but I have only ever installed Windows once and that was for Starfield since it didnt work with Proton OOTB, once they fixed it, I purged and havent gone back. In the future I wont be doing that. I love Bethesda games, so in the future I'll just wait it out. I did make sure to play the heck out of it while I was on Windows though.

In hindsight, I really didn't need Windows, but I was impatient.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by opan »

donohoe wrote: post #319

Can someone phonetically spell out “Baldur” for me? I’ve seen the term across my life but I have never heard it spoken. I think how I imagine it and how it’s said are different - like I discovered from reading LOTR books and then watching the movies…

AFAIK it's just ball-der. I've seen it win awards at The Game Awards and such, plus heard it discussed IRL, everyone seems to say it that way. If that's not the correct pronunciation, it's at least the popular one.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by scott_w »

dbspin wrote: post #302
shakow wrote: post #275

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> I'd be at a loss to think of an example of an engineer who's been publicly pilloried (having been highly regarded for great work) for the failings of their company. Perhaps you could cite and example? Because these guys and gals are not famous enough to warrant large coverage, and because the phenomenon is unfortunately so widespread that noone is going to cover every case. https://endofaspecies.com/oped/the-harass…

Thanks, really appreciate the concrete examples. They're not quite what I was referring to (developer praised by company / media - then attacked for issues with the company beyond their purview), but they do point to a (largely invisible from outside the industry / twitter bubble) truly worrying and frightening level of animosity and aggression pointed towards devs that I wasn't sufficiently aware of.

> They're not quite what I was referring to

I don't think you need a case quite this specific because of the following:

> then attacked for issues with the company beyond their purview

Ultimately, whether an employee is praised or not is completely irrelevant to the nutjobs taking their anger out on them because of something their employer did.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by kcb »

dkersten wrote: post #277
svl wrote: post #240

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Sadly they explicitly don't support that. :( > Now that there is a Steam Deck Native build, is Baldur’s Gate 3 supported on Linux? > Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck.

Of course they don’t, it would be crazy to say they would support all the different possible distros and configurations that people might run, when the majority of users are in steam deck. But that doesn’t mean it won’t run, just that if you have issues, they don’t promise to fix them. Seems reasonable to me. BG3 already ran well enough on Linux, so I imagine this will only make it run better, official support or not…

I don't think they have to do that for a Steam Linux release. Steam has Linux native runtimes to provide games with a consistent environment across distros. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/blob/master/R...
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