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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Like another post says, "The Mac was a philosophy". I bought a series of them but stopped around the year 2000 because they threw away the philosophy in favor of innovation. I think things were going south already around 1998. Remember Sherlock? On system 8.5 it would regularly interrupt the user (sending games from full screen to windowed) to display a dialog to say that it was indexing files. This couldn't be turne…

That was because MacOS classic couldn’t multitask

Sure it could, it had cooperative multitasking. Inside Macintosh instructed programmers on the importance of politely giving way to other processes.

https://archive.org/details/inside-macintosh-1992-1994/1992-...

WaitNextEvent (hmm, a Windows call has the same name, but functions differently I think).

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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My big frustration with Apple particularly iOS is many of the most annoying UI design issues seem trivial to fix.

It’s like anyone here with good taste and some experience leading teams could step into the product owner role for iOS at Apple and get them fixed in a couple of weeks.

Siri may take longer but doesn’t look like it would be too difficult to fix either.

Most of the issues are not constrained by anything but poor taste and dumb design.

Give me a copy/paste functionality that works. How can this be so hard to do?

When I go for a run and listen to a podcast, if I accidentally close the podcast view why do I enter the podcast app? And why do I need to go back to my apps, find my workout app, open it just to find again my podcast view then I need to swipe to go back to my workout view.

Uh, huh?

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I’ve also come to this realization as a longtime Mac user. Granted, I’m not old enough to have used the classic Mac OS as a professional, though I did use it in my childhood. However, I was in high school and college during the Jobs era of Mac OS X, and that’s when I started using Macs as my daily drivers from 2006 until 2022 when I retired my 2013 Mac Pro and 2013 MacBook Air and switched back to PCs running Windows…

Why do you favor Windows over Linux then?

There are proprietary software packages that I rely on that are unavailable for Linux, though I regularly use WSL for development.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

>> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. > When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder ma…

Pre MacOS X was a 90s style OS and had major limitations that were a problem for every user, starting with no real multi-threading, and I think no protected memory.

Where it was great was in the simplicity to the user. If you wanted to install or uninstall a driver or functionality, all you had to do is move an extension file in or out of the extension folder and reboot. That simplicity was lost in MacOS X. That made simple users dumber. (and iOS went back to the simplicity)

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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> If the latest product seems good, buy it. If not, don’t. There is another aspect to this though. As a user of an ecosystem, you're committed in many ways. As Apple or Microsoft or Google releases a new version of their operating system you're going to run that on hardware you already own. You're going to run software that you already own on that the OS. And you're doing to use skills and knowledge of that software…

To be honest I sometimes feel that my aversion to getting looked into an ecosystem is actually a detriment in some ways. I have a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really). Maybe life would really be better if I just hand over control and become a true believer!

    > a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really)
I'm confused. What is so bad about GNU/Linux/(KDE or GNOME)? I am a long time KDE user, but I have no ill will towards GNOME. Once a while, I need to use an app from the GNOME ecosystem, or use a GNOME desktop. It is never hard to navigate. GNOME vs KDE feels a bit like English from US vs UK -- black cat/white cat... they are still cats.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I’m a long time Apple user. But I never do anything that locks me into Apple in a way that makes me dependent on Apple. I could move to Linux tomorrow and everything I depend on would be fine. There’s no Apple service I actually need. I think Google and Android is worse in this way. The backup Android I had years ago forced me to login with my Gmail or I couldn’t use it. My old iPhone happily runs without being logge…

That may be true for you but it's not true for many people, like me. I have twenty years of iPhone data, eg messages, apps, etc. I can't easily move to some other phone. A desktop, maybe, but I'd still have to repurchase or find alternates to a bunch of software. It is far, far better if the existing system _stays useful_.

"twenty years"? Wasn't the iPhone released in 2007?

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Regarding the iPhone 17 Pro: > People who have no use for all these pro video recording features shouldn’t waste their money on it. Unless they want a big chunky iPhone with the best camera array and/or have money to burn. I feel like people who “want the best camera array and have money to burn” probably describes a significant percentage of HN readers. I’m honestly pretty excited that they’ve finally put the larger…

The air is too big and clunky from me. Sent from my iPhone 13 mini, which is also Too Damn Big. I’m got above average size human hands, which are too small even for the mini.

I still have a 12 mini as a work phone and that thing is great. My personal phone is a 16 pro and the only real advantage it has (for me) is the 120hz screen and the way better battery. I actively hate it's weight, especially combined with a case.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

Save your customer loyalty energy for businesses where you can actually establish a connection To be fair, I find despite the various foibles, Apple has always looked out for me when it comes to accessibility -- where none of the competitors bother. Maybe I shouldn't act out of loyalty, but they will keep getting my business as they keep it up (despite Liquid Arse stuffing up accessibility quite a bit).

    > Apple has always looked out for me when it comes to accessibility
I don't follow. Do you mean accessibility for visually or physically disabled? If so, can you give an example where Apple is better than Android?

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I don't understand how one would come to the conclusion that this is new behavior from Apple.

The first MacBook Airs were wildly impractical and expensive.

The first iPad suffered from the same issues.

Various iterations of the iPod nano were functionally kneecapped.

I see a lot of cherrypicking and not a lot of reasoning in this essay.

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