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Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
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Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any chance it could use seamless transport switching? It would be so awesome if it could switch to cellular(if available) or wifi-direct as needed on the fly. I have been thinking about creating such an app but lacked the time. If it's open source, I would love to help. I will give your app a try.
I'd stayed away from WiFi Direct because Android and iOS don't play nicely with it - but looks like the EU has forced Apple to support WiFi Aware in iOS 26. It still looks like it would require A LOT of manual pairing through the system UI if you join a group with new people though. I really wanted to keep the single password (or qr code scan/NFC tap) to join.
Totally missed this news. EU will mandate it indeed
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cryptocurrency transfers are irreversible, publicly verifiable and pseudonymous. For a privacy focused application, these attributes make crypto a better choice than USD and the traditional banking system.
Handing someone a $1 is irreversible if they won't give it back. All transactions are anonymous and private when using a physical dollar. Crypto has the primary advantage of allowing you to launder money by converting the "Coin" in criminal friendly countries to a fiat currency (dollars) that actually buys stuff. Especially useful when hackers hold your data ransom. Usually what people mean by not like "traditional b…
People who don't like traditional banking system just want a system where they have more money. If they actually wanted to fix fairness etc creating a new system is not a way, you can make the old system fairer like you can make a new unfair one
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cryptocurrency transfers are irreversible, publicly verifiable and pseudonymous. For a privacy focused application, these attributes make crypto a better choice than USD and the traditional banking system.
Only pseudonymous so far as you never accidentally link yourself to a wallet then everyone can know your entire transfer/spending history. It gets people all the time just look at the investigations into various alt coin rug pulls or other fraud. Irreversible is also not a good thing just ask anyone who had their NFTs stolen during that craze. If someone hacks my bank account or skims my card and transfers the money…
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Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#355I’ve been toying with a concept inspired by Apple’s Find My network: Imagine a decentralized, delay-tolerant messaging system where messages hop device-to-device (e.g., via Bluetooth, UWB, Wi-Fi Direct), similar to how “Find My” relays location via nearby iPhones. Now add a twist: • Senders pay a small fee to send a message. • Relaying devices earn a micro-payment (could be tokens, sats, etc.) for carrying the messag…
> Senders pay a small fee to send a message. • Relaying devices earn a micro-payment (could be tokens, sats, etc.) for carrying the message one hop further. The Helium Network tried something like this, but with a fixed infrastructure: People were incentivized to run Helium network nodes and could earn micropayments for running nodes and handling traffic. It revealed a lot of problems with structures like this, such…
I legit did not know helium was intended for communication. I thought it was a way to mine crypto via the airwaves or something.
The OP's idea is an improvement: if you have to use crypto, then the only way a token is generated is when a sender buys one with fiat, so that they can transmit their message on the network.
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#356Meh Apple only. Non starter in Europe.
But perhaps I could give briar another try.
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#357I’ve been toying with a concept inspired by Apple’s Find My network: Imagine a decentralized, delay-tolerant messaging system where messages hop device-to-device (e.g., via Bluetooth, UWB, Wi-Fi Direct), similar to how “Find My” relays location via nearby iPhones. Now add a twist: • Senders pay a small fee to send a message. • Relaying devices earn a micro-payment (could be tokens, sats, etc.) for carrying the messag…
> Senders pay a small fee to send a message. • Relaying devices earn a micro-payment (could be tokens, sats, etc.) for carrying the message one hop further. The Helium Network tried something like this, but with a fixed infrastructure: People were incentivized to run Helium network nodes and could earn micropayments for running nodes and handling traffic. It revealed a lot of problems with structures like this, such…
Yes Helium was a terrible net negative for IoT protocols. It only caused a ton of very wasteful useless traffic that interfered with real purposeful networks like The Things Network. I'm glad it's mostly gone now.
Personally I think everything gets perverted when monetisation becomes the primary goal.
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#358The serval project had worked on a similar app but now using Wi-Fi. https://github.com/servalproject/batphone
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 30% also covers refunds, legal stuff (not stuff IN your app, but regarding the sale of it), taxes, GDPR and much more. The infrastructure running the app store probably also isn't cheap. I'm not saying Apple doesn't profit from it, but they're not just pocketing every penny. As for "quality", they mostly check that your app isn't using unauthorized APIs, or doing other scetchy stuff, like leeching all of your dat…
> the damage will be somewhat limited if it can't use private APIs. That's a runtime feature, it has nothing to do with the App Store.
App Store only allows apps not using those runtime features
Re: Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been toying with a concept for a cryptocurrency that works without internet access (like physical money) - peer to peer credit. I believe it is the only real use case for this technology.
How do you solve double spending?
You don't really need to. In IOU systems you extend credit to someone you know, based on ones reputation or credit score. How back in the day your local milk man would just keep a tab of what you owe.
In a way everyone has something to barter: you owe the milk man, your employer owes you. Identities form a web of trust in the physical world.