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Post by noman-land »

whoisyc wrote: post #332
pyman wrote: post #238

The joy of deleting Facebook in 2021 is something I'll never be able to put into words. A company that's right up there with gambling and tobacco: designed to keep you hooked, no matter the cost.

I haven’t used Facebook in years and I don’t think I will ever pick it up again. But I also don’t think “just quit facebook, bro” is an effective pitch to the average person. Facebook (and other Meta properties) has sadly become the only popular channel for many sorts of offline activities. The average local sports group, DIY group, parents group, outdoors group etc around me are all on Facebook. The average musician…

Millions of thematic groups have existed for many hundreds of years and they did not need Facebook to organize. People are experiencing inertia and are too lazy or naive to help themselves. And, yes, some are truly addicted.

This inertia and naivete is harmful and dangerous to everyone involved. It's like if they met in a sketchy part of town or were using tools unsafely to the point where they could injure someone. Going along with that, and especially without saying anything, or trying to change the situation makes you complicit.

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Post by ryandrake »

throwaway83094 wrote: post #231
clcaev wrote: post #191

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> Remember that you can delete your Meta accounts and have nothing to do with them. It’s not hard to do. This means deleting real-world social connections. Meta owns the interwoven communication hubs of many local communities. Let me provide an example. My swim team coach uses WhatsApp for all communication, including frequent pool schedule changes. They have strongly resisted change, as it is too much work to get 50…

You could choose not to engage with communities that force you to use platforms that violate your rights. No need to cut anyone off for now, but something to keep in mind for the future.

I don’t know why you’re downvoted, you are absolutely right. We need to 1. Not engage and therefore be part of the problem and 2. Be vocal and loudly tell these businesses that it’s not acceptable to offer only Social Media mediated channels for communication. And stop doing business with those who keep doing it.

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Post by prmoustache »

danielbln wrote: post #160
xyst wrote: post #70

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These days I treat Facebook as a marketplace for offloading lightly used items. Social media is dead to me.

> Social media is dead to me You know, HN is social media.

Actually I don't think there is a single definition of social media but some countries/juridictions created their own for legal purposes and for most of them hn would not be considered a social media for various reasons: - no discovery of users - no subscription of users content - no private/direct messages

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by litmus-pit-git »

notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

Google had banned (years ago) my secondary Google a/c that at best I used once in a few months - never even browed from a browser with that a/c logged in, never ever used it for anything other than Gmail - I doubt YT etc was even activated on that. The reason given was a kind of porn that I can't bring myself to type the name of. I didn't even think of appealing - I was so fucking scared and ashamed without ever indulging in that.

But that was when I bought my domain and mail hosting service and few months later I had moved my email to my domain almost everywhere.

Years later Google also killed my primary Gmail (i.e what was primary email earlier) Google Play a/c (for lack of use; true I had never published an app) and didn't refund the $25 USD even though I had finished all the tasks needed to keep the a/c alive 3 days before deadline and I had also requested them to tell me "how to add the bank a/c" to get the refund (asked at least 5 times over a span of 40 days) - because they kept telling me "add the bank a/c for refund" and never telling me "how" or sharing an article or page that told me how. I could never find out how.

They kept the $25 - not even appeals were allowed/entertained. I got "final.. no further response" and that was it, literally no further response on it.

I stop to think sometimes why.. just why we gave these trillion dollar companies this much power - the likes of Apple, Google, AMZN, Meta, MSFT.. why?? Now we literally can't fight them - not legally, not with anything else. It seems we just can't.

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Post by exe34 »

litmus-pit-git wrote: post #354
notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

Google had banned (years ago) my secondary Google a/c that at best I used once in a few months - never even browed from a browser with that a/c logged in, never ever used it for anything other than Gmail - I doubt YT etc was even activated on that. The reason given was a kind of porn that I can't bring myself to type the name of. I didn't even think of appealing - I was so fucking scared and ashamed without ever indu…

> They kept the $25 - not even appeals were allowed/entertained. I got "final.. no further response" and that was it, literally no further response on it.

It's the kind of thing I'd send to the small claims court out of spite.

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Post by exe34 »

nelox wrote: post #194
notsydonia wrote: post #163

It's also a huge danger as the system FB uses to tag and categorize photos is clearly flawed. example: Meta took a business page I ran that had over 150K followers offline because of a photo that violated their 'strict anti-pornography' etc etc policies. The picture was of a planet - Saturn - and it took weeks of the most god-awful to and fro with (mostly) bots to get them to revoke the ban - their argument was that…

Venus, in her naked glory, I could understand at a stretch, but Saturn?

Just don't show Uranus!

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Post by dang »

tock wrote: post #51
pkkkzip wrote: post #30

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I was writing a response before realising this profile is an AI agent. Is this seriously allowed on HN? The bio reads: "It's largely for my amusement and I like to play games."

It's not allowed, and since it has also been breaking the site guidelines, we've banned the account.

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Post by p2detar »

krapp wrote: post #339
p2detar wrote: post #315

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My impression about Fedi is that it’s much bigger than most people think it is, but those who are in it don’t like talking about it a lot.

The more people know about it, the faster it gets ruined. An unfortunate law of nature. Luckily the fediverse already seems to push away a lot of trolls, bigots and capitalists, but it's just a matter of time.

While I agree that untamed capitalism causes nothing but damage to our societies, I do not agree that replacing one ideology with another does us any good. I have noticed a good chunk of Mastodon users signing as „communists“ in their profiles but I’m yet to understand what exactly they mean by that.

Edit: FWIW I come from a country where people considered themselves communists. Grandpa of my better half has a red star on their grave cross. IMHO ideologies are somewhat fucking people up.

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Post by sebastiennight »

vishalontheline wrote: post #101
cornfieldlabs wrote: post #79

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new users will face the empty feed problem since by design one can't find anyone without their code. No "People you may know" or "select at least N interests or follow N accounts to continue". I think early adopters will invite their friends to join and that is the only way. Got any suggestions?

Show 3 walls side by side: updates by friends, interactions by direct connections on shares by friends of friends, and public stories by those nearby (geographically). The latter could also turn into a way for local businesses to promote themselves. Keep the 3 in separate lanes in order to let the user decide how much they want to doom scroll.

You're basically describing the 3 default pages for a new user on a Mattermost instance :)

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Post by krapp »

p2detar wrote: post #358
krapp wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more people know about it, the faster it gets ruined. An unfortunate law of nature. Luckily the fediverse already seems to push away a lot of trolls, bigots and capitalists, but it's just a matter of time.

While I agree that untamed capitalism causes nothing but damage to our societies, I do not agree that replacing one ideology with another does us any good. I have noticed a good chunk of Mastodon users signing as „communists“ in their profiles but I’m yet to understand what exactly they mean by that. Edit: FWIW I come from a country where people considered themselves communists. Grandpa of my better half has a red st…

By "capitalists" I meant people who only want to use the fediverse as a commercial platform like an influencer or entrepreneur. Thus far platforms using the fediverse aren't as optimized for addiction and emotional manipulation as mainstream social media platforms are, so they remain unattractive to those interests.

But yes, there are a lot of self-described communists, socialists, anarchists and other leftist types there as well.

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