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Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by cpursley » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:30 PM UTC

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Why does American drinking water need fluoride - for the few seconds people brush their teeth? Other developed nations seem to do get by just fine without it (i.e, most of Europe). Does modern tooth paste not contain the components for proper cleaning? I feel like I'm missing something here, because I don't swallow my tooth paste but I drink my tap water. But if fluoride is fine in water that we drink, why not just a…

Because just like we have stupid people who don’t vaccinate their children from measles, we have stupid people who don’t make them brush their teeth. So rather than have them suffer with a lifetime of oral health problems, you can intervene in a transparent and cheap way to prevent these issues altogether. The introduction of fluoride dramatically improved oral health. NYC has been doing it since the 1960s, so one wo…

Any actual stats on people not brushing their teeth? It's not 1960 any more... And my entire point was to compare to other nations with similar development levels that don't pump it into their water supply and are doing just fine in terms of oral health.

And by your metric, should we also pump in vitamins and other substances that our bodies crave? Maybe the Fed gov't could just skip that and force drip IV everyone a compliance cocktail after their breakfast of USDA approved and SNAP subsidized Captain Crunch?

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by croes » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:30 PM UTC

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Imagine the costs of any blockbuster if it’s made in the US only

They used to do all principal photography for half of all Marvel films in Atlanta. The industry has almost completely pulled out in just the past three years. We had a booming, absolutely thriving industry for nearly two decades. People moved from LA to be here. We built hundreds of studios and sound stages. Now they're sitting empty. Everyone is going to Serbia now. IATSE folks are having to leave the industry entir…

Seems like other countries have cheaper workforce.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:31 PM UTC

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This is actually surprisingly a pro-union move by Trump. If you aren't aware, they've shipped most IATSE jobs to Serbia since 2023. They used to shoot most Disney and Netflix shows in LA and Atlanta. Now they're happening in Eastern Europe. They fly the cast out and film with crews that don't have labor laws or unions and that are an order of magnitude cheaper. IATSE members have been forced to leave the industry, se…

IATSE = International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees (IATSE) None of them expected the "I" bit to be used? Ever?

In American labor unions, “international” generally means “US and Canada”.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by nobody9999 » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:32 PM UTC

earthcreed wrote: post #92

habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

>You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right?

Protect Hollywood from who, exactly? IIUC, an increasing number of "American" movies (i.e., those produced/financed by American studios) are being filmed outside the US.

This isn't a bunch of foreign film makers ganging up on poor, beleaguered film companies like Disney, Paramount and Neflix.

They, of course, are going to go out of business any minute now because those evil foreigners are taking away their movies. /s

No. Those very profitable studios are choosing to make movies outside the US to bolster those high profits by reducing labor, physical plant and safety expenditures.

As such, how is charging Hollywood studios 100% tariffs to import the movies those same studios paid to make "protecting" Hollywood?

Don't mistake the above for my support of Hollywood studios. They are the OG rapacious scumbags that the SV tech bros are trying (and sometimes succeeding) in emulating.

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Post by alganet » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:34 PM UTC

habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

That brings a fascinating question. What cultures the USA emulated?

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Post by latexr » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:35 PM UTC

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> There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate. I mean, there was one candidate who fawns over dictators, is a felon, always acts in his own personal interest, and had very public plans to try to dismantle democracy and seize ultimate power. Then there was another who would at worst continue the status quo and not try to overthrow the government. It feels ridiculous to claim ther…

> at worst continue the status quo That’s what you have spelled out but failed to appreciate the significance of. For a chunk of the electorate the status quo wasn’t working for them. I see from all the down votes people seem blind to this. The ‘status quo’ may have been fine for you hence why you think that was better to continue…

> For a chunk of the electorate the status quo wasn’t working for them.

No doubt. But voting for someone who openly makes the worst parts of the status quo worse isn’t a solution either. If the current situation isn’t working for you, choosing to make it more difficult on yourself is nonsensical.

> The ‘status quo’ may have been fine for you hence why you think that was better to continue

I’m not American. But please do elucidate me on which groups exactly were being handed a bad hand by the status quo and are now better off. I think the answer will be quite enlightening.

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Post by eqvinox » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:35 PM UTC

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Relatively speaking, it actually isn't that popular - check the map on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emergency_telephone_... That's what, 10% of world population? 112 has India going for it…

10% sounds incredibly significant. That's nearly a billion people.

Sure. And in a spherical cow world, assuming you want to make n emergency numbers work, you'd sort by population-using and take the first n.

…but even then 911 would only be an emergency phone number if n ≥ 3; first two places being taken by 112 and 110 (because China).

However, this completely ignores facts like people from China being far less likely to travel to e.g. the US… it's more of a "of the people who'd make emergency calls in XYZ, what numbers would they use" consideration…

…it's really not an easy question. GSM went with 112 and 911 and I guess that's as good as an answer this'll get.

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Post by ulfw » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:44 PM UTC

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Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. Excluding animation movies, of course. I understand that the idea is “medium/long term” to move production to Hollywood area, but the short term impact can be massive. [1] “Deadpool and Wolverine”, “Wicked” and “Beetlejuice Beetlejuice” in London, “Dune part 2” in Budapest and Italy, “Godzilla x Kong” in Australia. Only “Twisters” was filmed in the US.

> Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. The movies you listed as examples are Hollywood productions (aka Hollywod movies, aka American movies).

That's like saying an Apple iPhone is a US phone and hence shouldn't be tariffed. No, it's made in China. Not in the US. The movies aforementioned are not made in the US either.

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Post by ulfw » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:46 PM UTC

melenaboija wrote: post #180

habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

I don't think they understand the damage all of this is doing to brand America. Since the first Trump administration, young people in Western Europe have increasingly lost their idealization of the United States. I'm 43 and moved to the US ten years ago and I feel like I'm part of the last generation that still wanted to move here. Highly qualified people I know in Europe no longer even consider coming here.

I'm a similarly aged European who studied, worked, lived in the States for a decade and moved out for good ten years ago, abandoned my Green Card and never looked back. The world is a big beautiful place. Much bigger and more important and diverse than the US. More free nowadays too.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Mon, May 05, 2025, 1:48 PM UTC

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But do you understand it will harm Hollywood? This is the economic, country scale equivalent of saying "fuck your movies", do you think the answer will be "oh sorry, I'll keep buying yours" or "fuck your movies too"?

It will reduce the profit margins of Hollywood studios. Maybe reduce the bonuses of their CEO. It'll help thousands of Americans that used to be employed by said studios but were fired not because they couldn't do the job but because the greed of studio execs made them move production outside of the US, playing financial arbitrage games against the interest of the US. Trump is trying to reverse this by making movies…

It’s categorically impossible that this could bring movie production jobs to the US. If a policy along these lines is implemented, both foreign and domestic consumers will launch a massive retaliatory boycott. (I will personally begin that boycott today unless Hollywood executives denounce the proposal.) The current dominance of American media offers absolutely no leverage, because it’s trivial and cost-free to go cold turkey on it.