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Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by nikkwong »

janalsncm wrote: post #25

So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic. https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401

While this may be part of the story, it's certainly not the full picture. We know that the CCP is actively manipulating the algorithm on Tiktok to further their agenda on multiple other geopolitical issues—something we have ample evidence for. I don't know if there is a smoking gun on this one topic in particular, but the CCP's goal has always been to divide the American audience; and we know that older Americans skew pro-Israel whilst younger Americans are more oriented towards being pro-Palestinian. If someone looked in the right places, they would more likely than not find evidence of algorithm manipulation to favor a Palestinian bend.

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Post by spencerflem »

mnky9800n wrote: post #346
aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

Russia doesn’t just put people in jail for speaking against the government. They weaponise the generational fear of being disappeared by the government. This is not close to what happens in America where you can post anything anywhere and if Facebook deletes it you can always make your own website about it. If you did this in Russia you go to jail. Even if you say things like “it is sad Ukrainian children die in chil…

They are now denying visas, and deporting lawful residents, sending them to offshore torture prisons, for social media posts.

For non citizens, regardless of length of time or legality, this is the case right now. For birthright citizens and full citizens it will be the case very soon

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Post by maeil »

esafak wrote: post #327
maeil wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chris Krebs just yesterday had his security clearance revoked solely for saying the 2020 election was fair and not rigged. His coworkers at SentinelOne (almost certainly most of who are citizens) also had their clearances revoked, despite never speaking out on the topic, purely as a North Korea style "punish the whole family" approach to strike fear into people of guilt by association, so that those who have spoken o…

Maybe it's time to rethink the visibility and permanence of HN discussions.

That would be great, but I don't see it. HN has already been obviously violating GDPR and all other right-to-forget laws since forever by not allowong for account deletion, and everytime this has been brought up, dang has pretty much confirmed they don't care ("it would look bad if there were deleted comments [and that's more important than these laws]").

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by cma »

BeetleB wrote: post #289
hurtuvac78 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually now US citizens are impacted too. Michigan-based attorney Amir Makled [a US citizen] was detained by federal immigration agents while returning home from a family vacation https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/nx-s1-5357455/attorney-detain...

He was detained at immigration. This happens all the time, and has been happening routinely since 2001. (Not saying it's good or anything - just not new).

Freest country, hardly anyone lives within 100 miles of the coast I'm sure https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

Re: Leaked data reveals Israeli govt campaign to remove pro-Palestine posts on Meta

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Post by tdeck »

BeetleB wrote: post #289
hurtuvac78 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually now US citizens are impacted too. Michigan-based attorney Amir Makled [a US citizen] was detained by federal immigration agents while returning home from a family vacation https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/nx-s1-5357455/attorney-detain...

He was detained at immigration. This happens all the time, and has been happening routinely since 2001. (Not saying it's good or anything - just not new).

The authoritarian future isn't evenly distributed. Some groups of people have been dealing with it for decades, while others are in for a surprise.

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Post by ethbr1 »

candiddevmike wrote: post #227
ethbr1 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Checks and balances are a crucial feature of American democracy. It's almost as though the framers of the Constitution foresaw the possibility of the two elected branches of government (executive and legislative) being monopolized by the same group, at some point. And that the very flexibility of regular, open, direct elections also required a check to protect the fundamental rights of all people in the country.

They may have foresaw it but they did little if anything to prevent it. They lamented that political parties would probably be the downfall, and here we are...

> little if anything to prevent it

The prevention is literally in the Constitution! Do you think other branches of government would be deferring to the Supreme Court if it weren't spelled out that they must?

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Post by cma »

mnky9800n wrote: post #346
aucisson_masque wrote: post #24

I like to think we are in a better place than russia for instance with all its propaganda and jailed journalists, but then i see these kind of article come over and over.... Most of the people in the 'free world' goes on mainstream media, like facebook to get their news. These companies are enticed to 'suck up' to the government because at the end they are business, they need to be in good term with ruling class. you…

Russia doesn’t just put people in jail for speaking against the government. They weaponise the generational fear of being disappeared by the government. This is not close to what happens in America where you can post anything anywhere and if Facebook deletes it you can always make your own website about it. If you did this in Russia you go to jail. Even if you say things like “it is sad Ukrainian children die in chil…

They are sending people to a concentration camp without any due process.

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Post by dijit »

shihab wrote: post #138
googlryas wrote: post #13

I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.

As a recent example, the instagram of guardian journalist Owen jones (well known Israel critic) was suddenly suspended without any explanation today. It has been since restored, after a predictable twitter storm.

Wasn’t that caused by pro-palestinian people reporting him out of hatred for attending a “butt-mitzvah” Jewish gay party?

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Post by tdeck »

sharpshadow wrote: post #270
kubb wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anna Politkovskaya – Investigative journalist and critic of the Chechen war, shot in Moscow (2006). Alexander Litvinenko – Ex-FSB officer poisoned with polonium in London (2006). Stanislav Markelov & Anastasia Baburova – Human rights lawyer and journalist, shot in Moscow (2009). Boris Nemtsov – Opposition leader, shot near the Kremlin (2015). Denis Voronenkov – Former Russian MP, shot in Kyiv (2017). Nikolai Andrushc…

If you gonna mix in politicians and opposition the USA has a extensive list themselves.

Fred Hampton would have something to say if, you know, he were still alive.

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Post by garbagewoman »

bawolff wrote: post #235

The missing part of this article: are the requests valid? Are they actually incitements to terrorism and violence or is it just a clamp down on criticism? The headline of the article implies the latter but the body does not provide any evidence for that. Like there is a war going on, a pretty nasty one at that. I would expect there to be quite a lot of incitement to violence related to that. I would expect the israel…

What would you define as “valid”
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