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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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tsujamin wrote: post #203
m4rtink wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting a dejavu of a couple SF books where a party needed to obtain totally-not-weapons, sometimes even including talking an AI into building them (with sometimes the AI even being on it basically, just not being able to acknowledge it due to outside setup filters even!). Laser flashlights and rapid rescue shuttles come to mind. ;-)

Makes me think of the sentient hell-class weapons in the Revelation Space series that (if I recall correctly) had to be goaded and convinced into firing

Shinji, get in the god damn robot.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Post by kridsdale1 »

Avshalom wrote: post #54
hahnchen wrote: post #5

Important to know: > Anna Makanju, the company’s vice president of global affairs ... added that it will retain its ban on developing weapons

Almost certainly only because weapons need solid math that LLMs still can't handle.

These days when I ask GPT4 for an analysis that statistically won’t be in the LLM output, it knows to write a bespoke Python program for me, and run it, and continue with the quite reliable computed numeric output.

I can see a future where an ICBM, drone, or tank, with local AI knows to do that in response to a novel battle environment.

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Post by kridsdale1 »

Descon wrote: post #191
hahnchen wrote: post #5

Important to know: > Anna Makanju, the company’s vice president of global affairs ... added that it will retain its ban on developing weapons

Is astroturfing a weapon? It seems like the natural use... To sway opinion in foreign countries.

I think so. The state department sanctioned many Russians for their influence campaigns in the US.

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Post by kridsdale1 »

racketcon2089 wrote: post #63
tartuffe78 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They are not weapons, they are enhanced tools for war."

"All we did was fulfill a contract for a government agency" is the enterprise tech Nuremberg defense.

IBM 2024.

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Post by mopsi »

amrocha wrote: post #334
mopsi wrote: post #318

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Nowhere did I tell you to be thankful. But I do find it hypocritical how oblivious and dismissive you are of the similar suffering caused by other countries, in even wider scale, over a longer time, in other parts of the world.

You're literally dismissing the fact that the USA executed a coup in my country because I didn't acknowledge that it would be bad if Russia did the same thing.

Nope. Unlike you, I am very sympathetic to people who have suffered from countries with imperialistic behaviour. I just don't restrict the list of such countries to only one entry.

If you want to educate yourself on how Eastern Europe suffered in the 20th century, then I recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0465031471

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Post by kridsdale1 »

slim wrote: post #301
azinman2 wrote: post #285

Everyone is jumping to conclusions. The DoD is huge and does a lot of boring things. There is a very good chance this won’t be useful for anything physical weapon related, especially when you consider their offerings.

They will use it to supplement their troll factions with robots and cyborgs. For their war on truth

I suspect 99% of what people do in the pentagon is read Microsoft Word documents, and use File New Document and write something else that references the other.

LLM for sure can help that process.

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Post by kridsdale1 »

gumballindie wrote: post #163
jayGlow wrote: post #133

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human soldiers already do that, if they can get it down to lower levels than humans it would be an improvement.

Ah yes, the good old argument “humans already do that”. Suppose that’s ok then.

Opposition to measurable improvement in the accidental fatality metric because we can’t step-function to zero in one go, is what’s holding back autonomous driving as well.

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Post by fy20 »

jacquesm wrote: post #272
campl3r wrote: post #269

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As it is happening anyways, I would be happy if the US is at the forefront instead of China or worse.

The US will be at the forefront for just as long as it will take to smuggle a couple of USB sticks out of OpenAI and I figure the chances of Chinese plants at OpenAI to be roughly 100%.

Microsoft has the models running in it's Azure datacenters in Europe already. I'm guessing there are other organizations who have it where it hasn't been made public. At this point I'd be surprised if it hasn't been leaked to other governments.

But as other comments say, China has smart people too. They've had facial recognition and other invasive mas data collection systems running at mass scale for years. They have the advantage of a lot of data they can use for training.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Post by kridsdale1 »

cm2012 wrote: post #122
gumballindie wrote: post #109

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Imagine once they hallucinate and attack friendlies. Although if Machine Vision counts as AI then it's already widespread.

I imagine you point it at a location where only enemies are.

ERROR: buffer overflow ………. The enemies are inside the house >>>>>>>>>>>
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