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As someone with autism, I lack empathy for (most) fake situations. Once I realized therapists and their ilk were lying about sad stories, I stopped having empathy for those sad situations. Ditto for fake news stories. Only mentally unfit people can pass a therapist's tests and be empathetic for people they know do not exist.

I'm not saying what you're saying is invalid, but I do have empathy for people that don't exist. It's called fiction and I find it quite enjoyable.

True.

I should have added: I also dislike being manipulated. I fail silly tests at work because I find them demeaning. If you want to know what I do on the job, drop by and watch.

This is relevant to psychological evaluations because the tests are so silly and contrived, and go on for so long, that I lose patience with them.

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Hundreds of thousands of man hours have been spent at the companies he hacked and in the justice system on his behalf. If you were the one whose crypto account he cleared out, or one of the people responsible for cleaning up after him, or even one of the lawyers trying to defend some idiot who tells the court he plans on committing more crimes as soon as he is released you might feel different. Do you think any of th…

From an IT security perspective this sounds detached from reality to me. If one kid can do this to your organization, someone isnt doing their job. Given economic competitors, hostile nation state actors and the possible stock market impacts, this isnt a matter of people having had better things to do. They had this to do and they didnt. The resulting extra cost is how you get your company to fix these things. Yes it…

It wasn’t one kid. It was an international group of at least three people (known so far), and likely more.

Yeah. If you keep your gold in a glass box, don’t be surprised when someone with a hammer steals it. But also, stealing things just because they aren’t locked up, and blaming the victim is no way to run a society.

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Arion needs help, including care for his autism. What a painful, horrible way to live every day (effectively untreated autism). He's in this situation because he did not have proper help. What a nightmare for him. Clearly he has some drive that he satisfies by hacking. Good care will help him identify that drive and direct it toward something healthy. Where are his family? Has he been walking around with this illness…

I'm going to say this as kindly as I can, though truthfully, I'm seething. I understand you're trying to be kind and empathetic. I feel for this dude too. But the way you're expressing your thoughts is hurtful, and I ask you to try to learn why. Here's a pretty good article from a mainstream website that talks about ableism and how expressing feelings of pity can be an expression of ableism. https://www.healthline.co…

The article doesn't seem to match anything in my comment; however, you say,

> expressing feelings of pity can be an expression of ableism

Empathy and compassion, which I think I expressed, are not pity. How do you draw the lines between them?

> We do need assistance, but much more of what we need--according to modern science--is acceptance and inclusion.

Absolutely, but how did I not accept or exclude Arion?

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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From an IT security perspective this sounds detached from reality to me. If one kid can do this to your organization, someone isnt doing their job. Given economic competitors, hostile nation state actors and the possible stock market impacts, this isnt a matter of people having had better things to do. They had this to do and they didnt. The resulting extra cost is how you get your company to fix these things. Yes it…

It wasn’t one kid. It was an international group of at least three people (known so far), and likely more. Yeah. If you keep your gold in a glass box, don’t be surprised when someone with a hammer steals it. But also, stealing things just because they aren’t locked up, and blaming the victim is no way to run a society.

>It was an international group of at least three people (known so far), and likely more.

I dont think this is changing the argument in terms of competence and dedication of the attacker to a meaningful degree. We are still talking about a small group of people without a sensible monetization angle involving somebody who couldnt keep his mouth shut long enough to not get put into a mental ward indefinitely. Its very much the bottom of the barrel in terms of attackers.

>But also, stealing things just because they aren’t locked up, and blaming the victim is no way to run a society.

I would also reiterate that you are making a moral argument about how society ought to be on a human level. Whether or not this is appropriate for human interaction, its really detrimental to running companies. I am making a practical argument on an economical level, companies need the negative incentive to run efficiently. Without they are unable to allocate resources to keep running, they fundamentally lack foresight without incentives. Management needs such cases to justify investment into security they need against determined competent attackers that are otherwise hard to visualize. And you cant get rid of attackers through law enforcement for the geopolitical reasons alone. You just make the risk invisible and companies more vunerable.

While his behavior might be antisocial if it had happened on a human level, it was beneficial and of vital importance to the company (and economic sector) he attacked. Its just that asscovering by the people responsible made it hard to acknowledge that.

Not saying he is a great guy, his personal behavior towards his fellow humans seems to have quite a bit of room for improvement. But dealing with him above that seems to be petty, counter productive asscovering.

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