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We're going to have state I.D to use any popular website alongside remote attestation and you guys are cheering us along the path there with cases like this
This isn’t a case of “oops we didn’t know the age”, this is about accounts that had an underage DOB set.
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If respecting privacy prevents tech companies from forming, then we should all be celebrating when those tech companies fail to form.
this is a naive take. companies will still be formed. they will just http 451 all EU users. like threads does right now. this will also mean losing out, but i guess europeans are used to losing out, and actually prefer it?
To most of them, everytime someone is trying to yank their chain by talking about “losing out” or lack of big tech companies, it’s the equivalent of someone suffering from the bubonic plague bragging about their fashionable buboes.
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1. How do regulators expect tech companies to verify the real age of users (without further intrusions of privacy)? 2. How do the regulators expect tech companies to verify the parents of child users? 3. Do regulators want tech companies to collect every child's birth certificate?
1. How do regulators expect Airlines to verify the real age of users (without further intrusions of privacy)? 2. How do the regulators expect Airline companies to verify the parents of child users? 3. Do regulators want airlines to collect every child's birth certificate? See how silly this sounds when you compare to any other industry? Oh but tech is different!
And FWIW, it's third-generation mobile-first social media platforms we're talking about. It's hard to make a case they're not a huge net negative for society. In any other thread, people would happily agree they shouldn't exist in the current form in the first place.
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It does get enforced against European companies, they just don't make HN headlines because they're not big-tech so nobody here would have heard of them. Also EU companies tend to be more mindful and take data protection very seriously, even before GDPR was a thing, so finding gross offenders is a rare occurrence anyway.
Isn’t SAP absolutely massive? Surely they count as big tech. Edit: for anyone wondering SAP has ~110,000 employees worldwide, Google has ~180,000, so comparably mega scale tech company.
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Not in Finland.
Does this comment in any material way relate to either my comment or the comment to which I was responding? I'd love to know more about how it works in Finland, but I can't figure out why you left this message.
An alternative to that, used e.g. in my country - Poland - is to create a "secondary currency" of penalty points. Rich or poor, you only have 24 of them, and if you lose them all, kiss your driving license goodbye.
One would think that penalty points could work here too, instead of scaling revenue, but the problem is, companies can rapidly split, merge, or otherwise shed their legal identity, so there's nothing to pin those penalty points to.
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1. How do regulators expect tech companies to verify the real age of users (without further intrusions of privacy)? 2. How do the regulators expect tech companies to verify the parents of child users? 3. Do regulators want tech companies to collect every child's birth certificate?
1. How do regulators expect Airlines to verify the real age of users (without further intrusions of privacy)? 2. How do the regulators expect Airline companies to verify the parents of child users? 3. Do regulators want airlines to collect every child's birth certificate? See how silly this sounds when you compare to any other industry? Oh but tech is different!
Sweet. But as long as the EU doesn't have a big company in the social media market, the Asia/US giants will get away with it.
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Greece has not been treated well, but you should also admit that Greece really fucked up. They even falsified their stats to adopt the Euro. > Imagine if a US state were in serious debt Except the EU is not responsible for and does not control their member states' finances. The EU has a limited jurisdiction. E.g. taxation, education and defence are not part of it. Being part of the Euro zone does bring certain obliga…
> They even falsified their stats to adopt the Euro. "They" is ill defined here. The people who falsified the finances were not the people who suffered under austerity. > Except the EU is not responsible for and does not control their member states' finances. During austerity, the "troika" (which included the European Commission and the European Central Bank) micromanaged Greece's finances. The Greek government was b…
That just confounds the issue. The people who profit from pensions, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. are also not the people who set it up.
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I dunno, I was pretty careful not to assume that in my comment. The town square metaphor is really not a great one for the internet. You don't run nearly as high a risk of getting doxxed or swatted for speaking your mind in a physical public place. And if the unspoken suggestion is that anonymous doxxing would be impossible or too costly/risky in a hypothetical de-anonymized world, I'd call BS. Even if it worked, tha…
Also, the town square is ephemeral. Sure, maybe it's written down somewhere , heck maybe the local scribe even publishes it in the next day's paper. But it won't show up 7 years later as the third Google search result when someone searches your name. You either need the right to be forgotten, or the right to be anonymous.
Historically, it wasn't current-moment anonymization that was good, but ephemerality.
Sadly, I think the right/ability-to-record is a genie that can't be put back in the bottle (no one can scrape anything?), so we may need to switch from identifiable-but-emphemral (historical state) to anonymous-but-recordable (future state) to preserve the same freedoms.
IMHO, we'd be better off working to curb the worst consequences of broad anonymity (e.g. astroturfing / artificial amplification).
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> They even falsified their stats to adopt the Euro. "They" is ill defined here. The people who falsified the finances were not the people who suffered under austerity. > Except the EU is not responsible for and does not control their member states' finances. During austerity, the "troika" (which included the European Commission and the European Central Bank) micromanaged Greece's finances. The Greek government was b…
> "They" is ill defined here. The people who falsified the finances were not the people who suffered under austerity. That just confounds the issue. The people who profit from pensions, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. are also not the people who set it up.