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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Spivak »

lostmsu wrote: post #159
TX81Z wrote: post #155

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I think people have started using “dark pattern” to mean any UX decisions they disagree with. There is a hugely substantive difference between this feature being on by default and say, making a ”reject tracking” button in 2 point grey font. Dark patterns are primarily things that if presented equally would result in a different decision which often go directly against the users self interest. I don’t see that here.

The dark pattern is redirecting Google search to Apple maps.

How do I get this to happen? I turned them all on typed in an address, hit return, hit the button on Google and it opened in Google Maps. I'm on the latest version of iOS.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by savingsPossible »

EMM_386 wrote: post #269
7373737373 wrote: post #124

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Eventually, only the owners are responsible. Every second they don't kick the managers that implement this crap to the curb is a moral failure on their part. Gates owns 100x more shares than Nadella - about 1% of all shares - and thus has 100x the responsibility. They are both guilty of greed and disrespecting their customers through their actions, or their willful or negligent ignorance and inaction. I don't know ho…

Public companies are out for one thing, and one thing only. Shareholder returns. It has nothing to do with CEOs "already being rich", their job is literally to run the company properly so that the shareholders make more money. Like it or not, that's how it is. Now, if this "crap" actually hurts the brand and the bottom line, they shouldn't implement it. If they are seeing more profits, and not many complaints, it's l…

They are not obligated to do that.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-co...

(arguably)

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by detritus »

reliablereason wrote: post #16
userbinator wrote: post #10

Microsoft is always striving to improve and streamline our product experiences—offering a new way to use the classic Microsoft Outlook app on Windows and the Microsoft Edge web browser. to help you stay engaged in conversations as you browse the web. I wonder if the people who write this sort of BS-filled prose really believe in what they're writing. To be completely honest, the style almost sounds like LLM output.

It is likely written by some copywriter. That person believes in nothing, they are simply performing a task that has been assigned to them.

> That person believes in nothing

Ouch!

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by vladvasiliu »

wholinator2 wrote: post #322
tut-urut-utut wrote: post #288

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The Windows Firefox will be removed by an enterprise security suite forced upon you from your IT security. Or bogged down by antivirus. Luckily for us, 99,99% of those corporate security and IT drones have no idea what you can do with wsl.

What security person in their right mind would remove firefox as a security threat? In my opinion you can make firefox drastically more secure with adblock and tracking blocker addons and better default settings. You'd have to be totally unconcerned with actual security to force everyone into edge. Or maybe there are some draconian incentives at big-corp's that I haven't seen yet.

They wouldn't remove it "as a security threat" as such. They'd remove it because it's not part of the vetted applications list.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by [deleted] »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #346
SebastianKra wrote: post #305

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Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

> The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better What do you mean by this? I have an iPhone but don't have airpods, just "regular" BT headphones. Under windows, they're hit or miss (sometimes they don't reconnect), but they work pretty well under iOS and mac os. They work best under linux (!), especially since it's the only one to support LDAC (though I understand some non-sony androi…

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by mholm »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #346
SebastianKra wrote: post #305

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Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

> The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better What do you mean by this? I have an iPhone but don't have airpods, just "regular" BT headphones. Under windows, they're hit or miss (sometimes they don't reconnect), but they work pretty well under iOS and mac os. They work best under linux (!), especially since it's the only one to support LDAC (though I understand some non-sony androi…

In terms of unique OS-level integrations: Airpods are not paired with a device: they're paired with your Apple ID. If I pair the airpods with my iPad, I can seamlessly switch them to iphone, to Mac, to my Apple TV. They'll even auto-switch if it detects you've stopped using your current device.

Airpods automatically try to pair with a nearby iphone when opened, if one of your own devices isn't around. All of this is through a pretty fancy UI, just for Airpods and Beats

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by plonk »

V1ndaar wrote: post #314
buro9 wrote: post #229

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WSL2 in Windows means you can just run a Debian underneath and launch a non-snap Firefox from there and have it appears in Windows. Now you get the benefit of Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) but a web browser Microsoft isn't going to mess with. This sounds hilarious were it not the way I actually work. PS: I'll also mention that VSCode from Windows to WSL2 + Debian is a mind-blowingl…

> Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) Is that sarcasm? I never had good battery life on a laptop running Windows. Linux has always been superior to me in that regard (maybe if nvidia optimus is at play?).

> maybe if nvidia optimus is at play?

In this case Windows is the only sane choice (at least based on my experience from 2 years ago).

After a lot of reading random docs, I got to a point where I could stop the GPU from eating the battery doing nothing, but I could only disable/enable it by logging out then in. It was either no GPU at all or a GPU drawing maximum power, no in-between.

Maybe Nvidia's latest code releases will help with that?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by savingsPossible »

Krssst wrote: post #219
procarch2019 wrote: post #63

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I think anyone using outlook is probably using it out of necessity for work. Not everyone can just jump to Linux when they work in a company.

The web version of Outlook probably works well on other OSes.

does on my linux mint, no problem (for now...)
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