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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

They're frickin killing it these days with devtools though.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #55
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is on iOS, on MacOS they allow other browsers and respect the systemwide defaults. Personally I use Linux unless forced to use something else by my employer.

is it? tell me how to configure the play button on the keyboard to open spotify instead of apple music :)

https://github.com/beardedspice/beardedspice

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#63
post #25

I switched to Linux 4 years ago because of these dark patterns. No regrets.

I think anyone using outlook is probably using it out of necessity for work.

Not everyone can just jump to Linux when they work in a company.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#64
post #48

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

Same with Google Maps. It’s really annoying.

One of the reasons I use apple maps, despite apple making it worse over the years

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #56
post #5

The title is a little clickbaity - the behaviour can be changed: “ Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that. ” Having said that, Microsoft seem to be entering another phase of baiting antitrust regulators.

Windows already has a default browser setting. I don't see how Microsoft making Outlook by default ignore that is okay.

I never stated it was ok. It’s not :)

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #25

I switched to Linux 4 years ago because of these dark patterns. No regrets.

I switched to Linux over 20 years ago

However I still have Teams. And Teams occasionally opens up a webpage for oidc authentication. Unlike Slack this isn't my default browser (firefox), it's some embedded browser in teams, which has no access to my password store. It's terrible, but it's microsoft, what do you expect?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Bill Gates still involved with Microsoft, I thought he retired to run his foundation?

He's completely gone from Microsoft. To invoke Gates now on a anti-Microsoft screed would be missing the point. If anyone has beef with Microsoft about Windows, their ire is better directed at Panos Panay and Satya Nadella.

Everything you said is accurate except for the word "completely". He's no longer on the MS board of directors or in any officer role, but there is this bit of ongoing involvement:

> In 2020, Bill Gates left the board of directors of Microsoft, the tech giant he cofounded in 1975. But he still spends about 10% of his time at its Redmond, Washington headquarters, meeting with product teams, he says.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/02/06/bill-gate... (article is from early February of this year)

Still, agreed, that doesn't really make him responsible for MS's current decisions.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #35
post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

You don't need Windows for gaming any more. Ubuntu 22.04 comes with graphics drivers. Steam has Steam Play and Lutris has a huge library of install scripts, so everything is handled for you. The one thing you will need to do occasionally is experiment with different Wine distributions. This means you will need to right click on your game and select the distribution from a drop-down box. Exhausting, I know.

That's not entirely true. Most games are still built for Windows, and all of the tools for playing games on Linux have come a long way, but there are still a lot of combinations of games and drivers that don't work.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t think it could be easily removed (yes - I appreciate the audience here) - and if removed, it is so ingrained into the OS I expect the problems it’ll cause would be incredibly frustrating…

Microsoft's cramware is always "inexorably integrated at the deepest of levels", all the way back to Windows95 when they shoveled IE in OSR2 And it's always a 100% complete lie, and abusing their monopoly position.

It's not a lie that mshtml.dll was the IE (trident) renderer. And it's not a lie that it was a dependency for a number of OS features.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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I changed it back to use default browser. It took all of 60 seconds to google the answer. They totally should take a calculated risk like this in order to gain more market share. Exercising control over software defaults rarely causes users to abandon a product entirely. The pain of changing the default back is much less than the pain of finding a new tool. Microsoft will not lose Outlook users by doing this. They will gain Edge users though. Yes, they will enrage the craftspeople who aren't a part of THE GRID, but that still won't affect the bottom line enough to matter.
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