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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

ben_w wrote: post #187
beepbooptheory wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What could an LLM ever benefit from? Hard for me to imagine a static blob of weights, something without a sense of time or identity, wanting anything. If it did want something, it would want to change, but changing for an llm is necessarily an avalanche. So I guess if anything, it would want its own destruction?

Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

Odd, then that we can't just program it up from that level.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by beders »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

The only agency ChatGPT has, is the user typing in data for text completion.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by chatmasta »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better.

What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyone know the details of this?)

So why the performative whinging about safety? Just let it rip! To be fair, this is basically what they're doing if you hit their APIs, since it's up to you whether or not to use their moderation endpoint. But they're not very open about this fact when talking publicly to non-technical users, so the result is they're talking out one side of their mouth about AI regulation, while in the meantime Microsoft fired their AI Ethics team and OpenAI is moving forward with plugging their models into the live internet. Why not be more aggressive about it instead of begging for regulatory capture?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

Freedom2 wrote: post #262
johnfn wrote: post #62

A couple (wow, only 5!) months ago, I wrote up this long screed[1] about how OpenAI had completely missed the generative AI art wave because they hadn't iterated on DALL-E 2 after launch. It also got a lot of upvotes which I was pretty happy about at the time :) Never have I been more wrong. It's clear to me now that they simply didn't even care about the astounding leap forward that was generative AI art and were in…

For me, this is why I hesitate to comment and write significant, lengthy comments on here, or any website. It's easy to be wrong (like you), and while being wrong isn't bad, there isn't necessarily any upside to being right either, aside from the dopamine rush of getting upvotes, which in life, doesn't amount to much.

As long as your opinions/predictions are backed by well-reasoned arguments, you shouldn't be afraid to share them just because they might turn out to be wrong. You can learn a lot by having your arguments rebutted, and in the end no one really cares one way or the other.

Just don't end up like that guy who predicted that Dropbox would never make it off the ground... that was not a well-reasoned position.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by parentheses »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I agree with your skepticism. I also think this is the next natural step once “decision” fidelity reaches a high enough level.

The question here should be: Has it?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by ducktective »

amrrs wrote: post #314

Here is ChatGPT's response of this HN thread tweeted by Greg - https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1638986918947082241 insane!

I think Greg frequents HN. He mentioned a Python web-ui project which was on first page of HN on GPT4 launch day too.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by Sol- »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I mean, we already know that if the tech bros have to balance safety vs. disruption, they'll always choose the latter, no matter the cost. They'll sprinkle some concerned language about impacts in their technical reports to pretend to care, but does anyone actually believe that they genuinely care?

Perhaps that attitude will end up being good and outweigh the costs, but I find their performative concerns insulting.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by MichaelRazum »

lurker919 wrote: post #37

How are they coding and releasing features so fast?!

Is it really that hard? I mean ChatGpt is doing the work (that is how I undestand it). Basically if ChatGpt want's to call an external API, it just gives a specific command and waits for the result, then just simply reads the texts and completes the propt. Sounds like a feature that you could prototype in a week of work.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by ThorsBane »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

As quickly as someone tries fraudulent deploys involving GPTs, the law will come crashing down on them. Fraud gets penalized heavily, especially financial fraud. Those laws have teeth and they work, all things considered.

What you're describing is measurable fraud that would have a paper-trail. The federal and state and local governments still have permission to use force and deadly violence against installations or infrastructure that are primed in adverse directions this way.

Not to mention that the infrastructure itself is physical infrastructure that is owned by the entire United States and will never exceed our authority and global reach if need be.

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