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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by zrail »

404mm wrote: post #240
hasty wrote: post #178

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On point #1, you can probably do 10Gbps (assuming it's actually Cat5e), as long as it's under 50m or so. If it's just a run inside your house, it's likely well within range.

Yes, it’s 5E. I thought that cat5e maxes out at 2.5GBit. Honestly, none of my devices would benefit from 2.5Gbit in a significantly way. I run some cloud backups in the night and it’s ok if it takes extra 5 minutes.

I've been able to get 10G over a shoddy 100ft cat5e run. Give it a shot! It's fun!

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by kbenson »

hedora wrote: post #225
kbenson wrote: post #207

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There are other ISPs in the states that are much more competitive (I work at one). Unfortunately, if you're not in a fairly dense area, the chances they can deliver to you is minimal, since building your own network is expensive. For example, we offer $40 service, and if you're in our historical areas that's 1Gbit symmetrical, and if you're in newer areas we've turned up in the last year that's 10Gbit symmetrical. We…

I have a sometimes 12mbit connection, but there's a Fiber POP about 1 mile down the road. There are phone poles (with fiber on them) between here and there. What does it cost to string fiber on poles, and what are the hopes of getting right of way? Alternatively, is there some way to pay / force the telco to build out FTTH? Some people a few miles away have a fiber POP at the end of their shared driveway, and are try…

In the US I believe anyone can use the pole space as long as it's not taken, but I'm not an expert. I do know you have to fill out engineering documents per-pole to explain the load and propose (pay for?) fixing the load bearing attached cables.

At the ISP I work for, I believe we spec out the cabling we need to a neighborhood and then order a special bundle with breakouts at specific locations along the length to serve locations, and then string that along the poles. I'm not sure why we wouldn't serve a house with one of those, but those go back to a central point in a neighborhood, and it's possible the backhaul from the central office to that central point in the neighborhood passes houses that aren't served. Where to build is all about ease of wiring an area and housi g density. It's all about cost per houses passed. The good news is that maybe your area is slated to get fiber since it goes by there, and it's just a matter of the lower hanging fruit being picked first.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by kbenson »

404mm wrote: post #242
kbenson wrote: post #193

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> Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do is to route 1Gbit. Having your uplink faster than all your individual ports in a network helps prevent any one port from being able to saturate your network. I work at an ISP that within the last year started selling 10Gbit symmetric, and we all sorta know there's not a huge use for it - yet. It's not really an issue for use to justify though, we don't char…

That’s nice!! $40/mo? That does not sound like US price.

It is. Sonic in northern California. More places soon, but scaling out physical infrastructure build has its own learning curve and often larger lead times. :)

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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404mm wrote: post #242
kbenson wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do is to route 1Gbit. Having your uplink faster than all your individual ports in a network helps prevent any one port from being able to saturate your network. I work at an ISP that within the last year started selling 10Gbit symmetric, and we all sorta know there's not a huge use for it - yet. It's not really an issue for use to justify though, we don't char…

That’s nice!! $40/mo? That does not sound like US price.

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by whazor »

404mm wrote: post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

In my opinion, 5gbit would be an useful upgrade (probably not worth that amount of money). In practice 1gbit is normally the limit of downloading in my experience. However, with multiple devices doing updates, downloads, streams actually having 5gbit and limiting each device to 1gbit ensures a high speed all time. Especially with roommates/family.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by 404mm »

kbenson wrote: post #353
404mm wrote: post #242

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That’s nice!! $40/mo? That does not sound like US price.

It is. Sonic in northern California. More places soon, but scaling out physical infrastructure build has its own learning curve and often larger lead times. :)

Dang! Good for you guys!! I’m in TX and ATT+Frontier have a firm grab on the infrastructure here. Charter is trying but still cannot compete with symmetric fiber.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by peter303 »

404mm wrote: post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

I suspect the metaverse will be a bandwith hog. This matters where you centralize or distribute the world model; ditto for the rendering.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by nix23 »

404mm wrote: post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

>$80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have

Init7:

1/1 Gbit/sec CHF 64.75

25/25 Gbit/sec CHF 64.75

It's the same price if available.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by skoskie »

404mm wrote: post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

Answering for myself, backups. My SO and I both WFH. We generate a lot of data, personally and professionally. Most of that backs up to a local server, which then backs up to two off-sites. That server also backs itself up (plex, etc.).

I have to schedule it all to run at night because it will saturate the network during the day otherwise.

I have 1Gb/40Mb @ $100 internet for reference.

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