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The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by morsch »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #349
tome wrote: post #258

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> far closer to its collapse than its founding Sorry, this isn't really an important point, but I found it quite implausible so I checked. Hadrian ruled until 165 years after the founding of Rome. It continued for another 257 years. Roman empire: 27 BC – AD 395 (as a unified entity) Hadrian: was Roman emperor from 117 to 138 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire

Rome was around for many centuries before the Roman Empire began. The traditional date for the founding of Rome is 753 BC (while there's no certainty in this date, it's probably not off by very much). It was a kingdom for about 250 years, then a republic for about 500 years, and only then did it become an empire. Rome had been in existence for over 800 years before Hadrian assumed power. Many people don't realize tha…

And Rome would endure for another thousand years, give or take, after Hadrian, even if its capital wasn't in Italy anymore...

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by brnaftr360 »

wolverine876 wrote: post #265
brnaftr360 wrote: post #236

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There's a considerable asymmetry here between men and women. I'm really curious about sussing it out and understanding how it develops. At an early age, about 5 or so I was exposed to sex, with peers, male/female. Later I was raped through coercion by two older children at 10-ish, male/female. Additionally none of this was ever reported until adulthood. As a male I've repeatedly been put in positions that I could des…

Your experiences are your own, of course. The rest is theory you created, not fact or evidence. Other males who have been sexually abused certainly have trauma. Look at the victims of the Catholic Church and other well-known situations. I'm sure you can find plenty of research describing it. EDIT: Also, many comments testify to it in this discussion.

>The rest is theory...

It's a hypothetical, I'm not intent on stating anything as fact.

>Look at the victims of the Catholic Church and other well-known situations.

Part of what I conjectured was that the system itself is potentially traumatic. And that (naive) interventions might hypothetically be damaging. Again, one is potentially braving a number of institutions, not just family, but police, case workers, mental health professionals. Not to mention in the case of familial abuse considerable transitions, up to foster care, itself from what I've heard is frequented by pederasts. Perhaps a window for a form of gaslighting, wherein the victim is induced to believe they're traumatized.

That is to say, that any well-known case, perhaps especially well-known cases would be outside the scope.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by brnaftr360 »

tasha0663 wrote: post #297
brnaftr360 wrote: post #236

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There's a considerable asymmetry here between men and women. I'm really curious about sussing it out and understanding how it develops. At an early age, about 5 or so I was exposed to sex, with peers, male/female. Later I was raped through coercion by two older children at 10-ish, male/female. Additionally none of this was ever reported until adulthood. As a male I've repeatedly been put in positions that I could des…

> at an early age women are given the impression that sex is their single lever in a relationship or socially I can't speak for all eras and populations, but I suspect that that anecdote is an outlier. > I wonder if I'm an oddball If I may be so bold, you seem emotionally detached from the incident. That itself might be a response to the trauma.

I suppose I can't really say, it's something that happened decades ago. Like heartbreak of high school, it's sort of faded away into emotional oblivion, though it never really excited me. I'd say I can pretty readily identify thoughts and feeling of the events, recollect the environment, the people, but being they were so long ago there's no realistic way for me to verify.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by lelanthran »

mdavis6890 wrote: post #228
onphonenow wrote: post #186

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Parental testing should be mandatory at birth perhaps for these issues. Or at least if someone is going to go claim child support.

The father - and should be - is the one who raises the child. It is for this reason that (in the US) "father" of record is always the husband unless it is explicitly questioned and investigated. Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

> Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

Because the real father did not get to enjoy his rights as a parent? Because the child did not get to enjoy their rights with their biological parent?

Seriously, paternity fraud has three victims: The unknowing father, the biological father and the child.

Asking to keep the crime secret because the perpetrator might get uncomfortable questions is not reasonable when their are multiple victims plus the potential for medical mishaps for one of the victims.

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Post by imtringued »

the_mar wrote: post #323
cjaro wrote: post #231

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The veterinary field is the same way. I saw a TON of abused pets & animals when I was doing vet tech work. I ultimately decided not to pursue vet school.

did you really just compare the two

We treat animals worse than humans. Even pet animals are often sent to an overcrowded shelter where animals are killed according to the "first in first dead" principle.

If you want to know what cruelties humans are truly capable off I suggest you look at how we treat animals. As long as we declare a certain subgroup of humans "inhuman" we will treat them the same way.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by mavhc »

istjohn wrote: post #244
mavhc wrote: post #235

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Among the small share and number of federal defendants who went to trial in fiscal 2018, those who opted for a bench trial – that is, one in which the verdict is handed down by a judge – fared better than those who opted for a jury trial. Around four-in-ten defendants who faced a bench trial (38%) were acquitted, compared with just 14% of those who faced a jury trial. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/…

I have to imagine the defendants who opt for a bench trial have reasons for making that choice that don't necessarily apply to the defendants who choose a jury trial.

So the ones who choose Bench trial are more likely to be innocent?

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by imtringued »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #345
mbreese wrote: post #276

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If you’re not a willing participant, then you can still have the test. If you’re the type where if the kid isn’t your biological kid, then you wouldn’t want to be a father to them — then get a test. The question is — should it be mandatory for all pregnancies? Willing participant or otherwise. I’m not saying no one should have paternity testing. It should certainly be available. I just don’t think you should mandate…

Its also important to remove any doubt - to strengthen the bond in the cases where its true

> to strengthen the bond in the cases where its true

You mean when the parental relationship is compatible with the wishes of the potential step father. Knowing that the child isn't yours can be useful in either direction. Either you know it from the start and accept it from the start, or you refuse it from the start. This idea that we shouldn't bear bad news and hide them, hoping to profit off the confusion, is a horrible way to run a society. Learn to deal with the bad news. (ignoring them is how situations escalate and get way worse than they should be)

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Post by MrLeap »

commandlinefan wrote: post #290
MrLeap wrote: post #172

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A professional Jury opens up avenues for corruption. Maybe someday we can simulate human brains well enough to run the markovs on governance ideas to see if it's worth it.

> A professional Jury opens up avenues for corruption Wouldn't the same logic reject professional judges and attorneys?

I don't think so. Checks and balances.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

fatbird wrote: post #302
denismenace wrote: post #224

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What assures them that non "Big brain" people won't do the same thing? I think for most people it would more interesting running through the scenarios in your head, instead of listening to other people (lawyers) speak.

Their experience, I guess. I know that, of the university professors and professional engineers I know, they are some of the smartest and also some of the dumbest people I've ever met. It's like they invent new ways to be wrong, sometimes. I can easily imagine any of them in a jury room talking complete nonsense about who did what and why and how the law shouldn't be that way or mean that and so they have to acquit--…

A stupid person can make only certain, limited types of errors; the mistakes open to a clever fellow are far broader. But to the one who knows how smart he is compared to everyone else, the possibilities for true idiocy are boundless.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Post by dasKrokodil »

Mezzie wrote: post #171
tomcam wrote: post #33

Can testify it does a number on male development too

I'd be interested to see this study repeated with male victims. I think each sex has its own issues when sexually victimized: - Females, of course, can get pregnant, and our assaults are more likely to be physically painful. - Males have zero social support and are far more stigmatized for being victimized, and they also have less of a support network/are more isolated than females on average. They also have fewer re…

> [...] our assaults are more likely to be physically painful.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I wonder why you think this is the case?

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