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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by chromedev »

zepto wrote: post #348
chromedev wrote: post #336

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Because they literally have an open source operating system that is being used by a multitude of phone manufacturers, kiosks, home security systems, developers, hobbyists, security experts, Amazon Kindle, etc without any licensing fees which can be audited by anyone.

This is simply false. There is not a multitude of phone manufacturers using an open source operating system. The Android that phone manufacturers use is largely closed source, and only part of it is open source. This has been irrefutably documented elsewhere in this thread. This thread is about phones. The fact that you can use the open source components of Android to build a home security system, but not a phone, ju…

The operating system is open source. You are trying to say Google apps and services are part of the operating system, but they aren't. I take it you've never installed a custom Android ROM before, who frequently don't package gapps? Are you suggesting that before you have an operating system, you have to install the gapps APK?

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by yoganotch »

shadowoflight wrote: post #267
yoganotch wrote: post #254

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Thank you! I am one of the founders, the accuracy will vary depending on how the person is wearing it, but regardless it will be well within clinically acceptable values for something like physiotherapy or rehab. Yoganotch itself is new (2020) but we've been building these devices for a few years - have a number of peer reviewed papers published based on Notch ( https://wearnotch.com/papers ).

This looks like a very interesting solution! Is there a subscription fee for the YogaNotch app, as well, or is it just the one-time sensor purchase?

No, there is no subscription :)

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by zepto »

chromedev wrote: post #351
zepto wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is simply false. There is not a multitude of phone manufacturers using an open source operating system. The Android that phone manufacturers use is largely closed source, and only part of it is open source. This has been irrefutably documented elsewhere in this thread. This thread is about phones. The fact that you can use the open source components of Android to build a home security system, but not a phone, ju…

The operating system is open source. You are trying to say Google apps and services are part of the operating system, but they aren't. I take it you've never installed a custom Android ROM before, who frequently don't package gapps? Are you suggesting that before you have an operating system, you have to install the gapps APK?

Certainly some of the apps and especially services are considered part of the operating system by most people.

You only have to look elsewhere in this thread to see all of the features which have been moved out of AOSP into Google Play Services to see this proved.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by chromedev »

zepto wrote: post #353
chromedev wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The operating system is open source. You are trying to say Google apps and services are part of the operating system, but they aren't. I take it you've never installed a custom Android ROM before, who frequently don't package gapps? Are you suggesting that before you have an operating system, you have to install the gapps APK?

Certainly some of the apps and especially services are considered part of the operating system by most people. You only have to look elsewhere in this thread to see all of the features which have been moved out of AOSP into Google Play Services to see this proved.

So you're suggesting that without Google specific proprietary apps and services that Android doesn't boot up and the phone can't be used with third-party apps?

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by vaxman »

vaxman wrote: post #334
newscracker wrote: post #46

I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

One word: Woz Two words: Pear Shaped (Young/foreign moderators won’t get it and downvote..it’s like a double entendre do love this site.)

I put the note in about being downvoted before I tapped Submit for the first time. It was a backhanded insult against Hacker News —whatever it is, it isn’t about hackers...more like people who dream about being hackers..or guys making too much money bein’ told they’re hackers (and trying to wear size 14 shoes to watch the Warriors roflmao)

Hey at least they’re physically fit!

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Post by conception »

alwillis wrote: post #331
conception wrote: post #318

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Apple is a luxury brand. The fact they have such a market share is an aberration not the norm. The ex-ceo of Burberry works at Apple. They are for rich folks, 1500 for a phone remember! Their incredible success has been in convincing non-rich folks their product is worth stretching their finances to get a new one as often as they can. Every product line is marketed as a luxury product. It’s not surprising that their…

The Apple Watch SE is $279—that’s not luxury level money.

If you think $300 for a watch, smart or not, isn't luxury level money, I think you really need to re-evaluate where "rich" starts and "most people" ends.

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Post by idoh »

hodder wrote: post #97

For Peloton, I would worry about this becoming a platform like car play for OEM fitness players.

Hello, sort of random, but hodder, if you read this, thanks for your tip on metallurgical coal back in this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22069310. I went long on HCC after the pandemic plunge in March and it is (knock on wood) turning out pretty nice!

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by fomine3 »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #253
chromedev wrote: post #250

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Little as in what? You're being very vague. Do you want to use official Google Apps without the Google APIs? At least the OS is open source, but I can have a very functional device without needing gapps. Same with COS on their cloud platform. Apple is actively preventing users from even installing apps outside their app store.

I think by now it is common knowledge in anyone interested in this subject. A good place to start is this ArsTechnica post from 2013 (updated in 2018) [1]. One nice user on Reddit made a list [2] of AOSP apps replaced by Google: Google Services Framework removed in 1.1, replaced by Google Play Services Search removed in 1.5, replaced by Google Music removed in 2.3, replaced by Play Music Browser removed in 4.2, repla…

This is really nice listing.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by saos »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #202
saos wrote: post #189

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Should check out Gymaholic iPhone app. Really good use of AR and overall nice experience. https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/gymaholic-workout-tracker/id64...

I love Gymaholic, but I don't understand how the AR is useful at all. How is it better for me to watch a 3D model do an exercise with my couch as the background, rather than just a black background? Is it the ability to walk around the 3D model? It's much easier just to spin the model with my thumb. That is how I feel about most AR is in general. It just filters out the app background and makes whatever your camera i…

Yeah I like walking around the model aha. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gymaholic got bought out. It’s too good.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by zepto »

chromedev wrote: post #354
zepto wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly some of the apps and especially services are considered part of the operating system by most people. You only have to look elsewhere in this thread to see all of the features which have been moved out of AOSP into Google Play Services to see this proved.

So you're suggesting that without Google specific proprietary apps and services that Android doesn't boot up and the phone can't be used with third-party apps?

Third party apps won’t work if they rely on Google play services as many do.

Whether it boots or not is irrelevant if it doesn’t do what people expect a smartphone OS to do.

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