Unfortunately there are private clinics practicing this very thing despite a majority of people growing out of their desire to transition at a later age. Medical abuse is not unprecedented. I believe it to plain child abuse and propose the the children affected get some legal support for possible recourse.
This is nonsense.
Maybe, in that case giving them a possible vehicle to defend themselves shouldn't pose a problem. And that includes holding parents and practitioners accountable.
How large should the sample be before it's substantive? The British polling institute advises a sample of 1000 for a total UK population of around 60,000,000. Trans people make up 1% so roughly 600,000, with that in mind 57 doesn't seem that low?
The required sample size doesn't depend on population size that much.
Maybe, in that case giving them a possible vehicle to defend themselves shouldn't pose a problem. And that includes holding parents and practitioners accountable.
No, it's nonsense to suggest that 5 year olds are being given hormones to trans them.
Like all genders, I would ask them what is “correct.” If you’re asking about _sex_, however... in the case of intersex conditions, they arise from a disorder of sexual development which by definition arises by diverging from the typical developmental pathway of one sex or the other. Much the same as someone with a much later and artificial divergence (e.g. hysterectomy), this sex is still their sex despite their inte…
> Like all genders, I would ask them what is “correct.” If you’re asking about _sex_, however... Ah, we've switched arguments. Upthread, you stated: > And for most people, “man” and “male” are synonyms. If you're now arguing for a distinction between the terms, we're now in agreement.
Yes, there is good reason to make a distinction between the terms, just like there’s a good reason to distinguish between “brain” and “soul.”
I don’t have to believe the shahada in order to conduct myself respectfully with a person of the Muslim faith, and I don’t have to believe a female is a man in order to conduct myself respectfully with a trans man.
While a lot of trans people would like it to be the case, quantity doesn't really matter past receptor saturation. Most badly adjusted doses are badly adjusted because they're not consistent instead (estradiol has a very short half life). If you have gonads producing your hormones you don't usually have this issue. We do however have cases of gender dysphoria when treating cis people with antiandrogens for prostate c…
This assumes that gender dysphoria is exclusively physiological, an impossibility given that gender itself is partially socially- and psychologically-constructed. As mentioned, perhaps hormone treatment could still benefit people who don't have a clinically-indicated deficiency solely because (even in men and women with functional gonads) their application enhances the secondary sexual characteristics (behavioral, ps…
There are definitely social, psychological and neurological factors involved, and none should be discounted. It's just that the social factor is much harder to control when our society is so hostile to gender-nonconformity. And that explicitly includes internalized transphobia. I would not be surprised in the slightest if social rejection accounts for most of the remaining difference to cis controls for transgender suicidality.
I was trying to argue the other direction: Maybe some autists will mistake their acceptance issues as gender dysphoria, thereby leading to a higher trans percentage among autists (which was the main observation from the paper). As such, I disagree with you that trans and autism are unrelated issues, because the paper measured a correlation. It's just that nobody knows in which direction the effect goes.
I love how cis people, after reading (likely only the abstract) of one paper and now fashion themselves experts on the lived experience of trans people. Measuring a correlation says nothing about causation (either way; there's a lot of room for confounding factors). The implication that autistic people will "mistake" their dysphoria is incredibly patronizing and just frankly rude.
Your post sounds like you strongly disagree with me, but it looks like we do agree on the facts. The paper measured a correlation but whether that implies causation is anyone's guess. The paper argued one direction, I argued the other direction, but both explanations fit the data which just shows that we don't know yet if there is causation.
One thing I would respectfully suggest here is to use language like 'atypical' rather than 'abnormal', as it avoids some of the unpleasant subtext of the latter word. (At least so far - the euphemism treadmill makes for an unending race, but it's still worth putting in the effort.)
maybe it's an overly optimistic hill to die on but imo, the best thing we could do for divergent people is to normalize abnormality rather than codify softer language to avoid describing it as abnormal or creating 32 new checkboxes of 'normal'
You mean eliminate "abnormality" and "divergence" as a concept? Yes. Better to focus on needs difficulties and abilities, not irrelevant comparisons to population averages. And better to treat differences as something to accept appreciate, and not arbitrarily idealize the median.
"Normality" is a factor in estimating public health costs, not relevant to individual care.
The child "was verbalizing that she was a girl at least six times a day" and praying for her boy self to die. The mother talked to professionals. She only began to change her mind after a transgender teenager's suicide note made her realize her own child might commit suicide. Even then she studied and prayed for months. What makes you think the mother assumes her daughter will be straight?
Because she already knows he is a homosexual male, which ends up a straight trans woman.