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Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Post by diveanon » Wed, Jun 05, 2019, 6:08 AM UTC

joelrunyon wrote: post #335

diveanon wrote: post #243

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My flight from New York to KL cost less than my flight from Orlando to NY. Most Malaysians also speak English very well, especially compared to the rest of SE Asia. I have spoken to Americans back home who couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map, and even more who just write it off as a "Muslim country" despite it being secular and very diverse. I would say it has less to do with accessibility, and more to do with…

I didn't say anything about accessibility. I said it has to do with how the country presents itself. If you polled people going to Asia - you'd see a huge # of them would be going to Thailand or Bali (80/20) - likely due to them being portrayed in the media quite a bit. Indonesia is also significantly Muslim. You seem to be looking for a fight where there isn't one. Maybe you should reconsider your assumptions about…

I am Mexican American, its not an assumption when you lived in the country for most of your life.

I'm not looking for a fight, I am just genuinely interested in why Americans are an under represented group of travelers in the country where I currently live and work.

So far the majority of the replies that attempted to give a reason included the fact that it is a Muslim country, despite that being as true as America being a Christian country.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Post by diveanon » Wed, Jun 05, 2019, 6:10 AM UTC

ashelmire wrote: post #336

diveanon wrote: post #21

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I did not see a breakdown by age demographic in that report. The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. Maybe that will change once they have kids who want to go see Harry Potter World in Orlando, but as it stands I think most of my customers would rather visit North Korea than the US.

> The overwhelming majority of the tourists I encounter fall into the Millennial bracket, and I don't think it is possible for them to be less enthusiastic about visiting the US. You could say the same about American millenials. We aren't thrilled to be here either - if we all had dual citizenship with another first-world nation, I'd bet 70% of us would have left the country. I doubt we've ever had an economy that wa…

You don't need dual citizenship to leave, it didn't stop me.

America has been on a bad path for decades, I left long before Trump was even in the picture.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Post by masonic » Wed, Jun 05, 2019, 8:34 AM UTC

pas wrote: post #348

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It received just enough to pass, Only Democrat votes. Republicans and rank-and-file Democrats were not allowed to even see the final bill before the vote.

It passed after Dems lost the supermajority, no? Hm, I looked it up, this is pretty funny, that one Republican voted with the Dems, but 39 Dems voted against. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml Probably some voted against because it did not go far enough? The Senate vote is (exactly?) split on party lines: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_... 60-to-39, so they probably had the magi…

  one Republican voted with the Dems

No, you're looking at the wrong bill. This[0] is the vote on the actual, final ACA.

[0] http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Post by diveanon » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 3:35 AM UTC

Aromasin wrote: post #309

adventured wrote: post #283

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> They only have 5-10 days vacation a year on average. Your figures are off by a large margin (70% to 240%). The average American worker took 17 days of vacation time in 2017. For paid vacation time - the more important item - it depends heavily on experience and company size. "In 2017, the average worker with five years of experience at a company was given 15 days of paid vacation and the average worker with 20 year…

That little holiday time still baffles me. I've taken 15 days off this year and we're barely nearing mid-summer. That's not including the 8 bank holidays we get. I've still got another 10 to use before the years end, not including days in lieu from working overtime, and this is only my first year of employment. I know that the US isn't great for workers rights, but regardless that's incredibly shocking to me. If I wa…

"run off to become a surf bum"

You just summarized my career path after working as a software engineer for 10 years in SV.

Re: US demands social media details from visa applicants

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Post by beached_whale » Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 12:49 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #125

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I don't think it is spoiled. Definitely better than here in North America, but is isn't spoiled to be afforded basic human rights of not being treated like cargo when crossing an imaginary line.

This is a ridiculous argument. There is a huge demand for people to immigrate to the US and it has every right to screen people looking for visa’s however it wants.

All the idea of countries do is perpetuate inequality and allow for the sovereignty excuse for the abuse of their own people. Sovereignty is a tool of oppression. It codifies in law an Us and Them instead of We. Yay, I won the geographic lottery and was born to a rich country. We better enforce that at an imaginary line on the ground with weapons.

The problem starts when the powerful countries mess up the lives of people outside their borders, all the while complaining that those people shouldn't be allowed to come here.