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They're supposed to be God-given rights

Except they're not, they're man-made laws. (I don't believe in any deity or religion but arguing on delusions is beyond the point.)

as in people have the right to free speech, not just citizens. in this man-made document for this nation, it says people are born with rights, and so that belief must extend to people outside the nation. they were born too.

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Whatever happened to 'those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither', America?

That was just a feel good message like “All men are created equal” or separation of church and state

  separation of church and state

... is not an element of the U.S. Constitution. It simply prevents establishment of an official religion.

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post #333

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And yet it received basically no bipartisan support in Congress. The Romney stuff is a talking point, not a reasonable way to pursue bipartisan progress on healthcare (which is still a mess).

It received just enough to pass, don't forget that. And also don't forget that nowadays it receives just enough support to stay on the books. Also. Talking point or not, it pretty much showcases that policymaking today is not a deliberate good faith iterative process what it should be. It's just a front in the culture wars.

  It received just enough to pass,
Only Democrat votes. Republicans and rank-and-file Democrats were not allowed to even see the final bill before the vote.

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post #333

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It received just enough to pass, don't forget that. And also don't forget that nowadays it receives just enough support to stay on the books. Also. Talking point or not, it pretty much showcases that policymaking today is not a deliberate good faith iterative process what it should be. It's just a front in the culture wars.

> It received just enough to pass, don't forget that. Kind of. One version passed the House, another the Senate ( ), and a questionable reconciliation process created a unified bill. My point is that I don't find the "Obama nobly lost to the Swamp" narrative all that convincing. He could have required, say, 10 republican senators agree before (unsuccessfully) overhauling one of the largest parts of the economy. That*…

  Arlen Specter, who switched parties mid-term
He did so twice (1965 and 2009).

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To be honest - that's sort of off the beaten path (speaking for a lot of Americans). From the SE asian island-ish countries, I can think the ordering of "who goes where" would look something like this - Thailand, Bali, Vietnam, Phillippines, Malaysia - just based on country marketing + anecdotal conversations alone. This is coming from someone who was nomad-ing around for 2 1/2 years too.

My flight from New York to KL cost less than my flight from Orlando to NY. Most Malaysians also speak English very well, especially compared to the rest of SE Asia. I have spoken to Americans back home who couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map, and even more who just write it off as a "Muslim country" despite it being secular and very diverse. I would say it has less to do with accessibility, and more to do with…

  couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map, and even more who just write it off as a "Muslim country" 
I'd be very interested in meeting this population that "couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map" but know that it is majority Muslim.

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Anecdotally, I've had several negative, but inconsequential experiences with the customs people in Germany.

I had a security guy that checked for drugs telling me "This is Germany, why don't you speak German!" when I told him if he could explain what he wants me to do in English. (put down my bag on the table and show my phone so they can check it for chemicals) Yep, this happened. In Airport. International Berlin airport. I didn't say anything because I did not wanted to be detained for longer and miss my connection fligh…

> International Berlin airport.

These three words are incompatible with each other.

That being said, Berlin pretty much is Germany's asshole, and they are rather proud of it, too (see: "Berliner Schnauze")

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So... easy to get a visa if you're a highly-skilled migrant. That's not everybody. That's not most people.

Sorry...where did I imply that anyone could get one? Most anyone who graduates and finds a job sure can; and from what I gather it's a far easier and less Kafkaesque process than in the US, too. I was primarily responding to the point that 5 year visas are unheard of in Europe (which is plainly false). I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

I was responding to "relatively straight forward".

It was "relatively straight forward" because you are a highly-skilled migrant.

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post #333

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It received just enough to pass, don't forget that. And also don't forget that nowadays it receives just enough support to stay on the books. Also. Talking point or not, it pretty much showcases that policymaking today is not a deliberate good faith iterative process what it should be. It's just a front in the culture wars.

It received just enough to pass, Only Democrat votes. Republicans and rank-and-file Democrats were not allowed to even see the final bill before the vote.

It passed after Dems lost the supermajority, no?

Hm, I looked it up, this is pretty funny, that one Republican voted with the Dems, but 39 Dems voted against.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

Probably some voted against because it did not go far enough?

The Senate vote is (exactly?) split on party lines: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

60-to-39, so they probably had the magic 60 to pass despite filibuster.

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Highly-skilled migrant. Then, after that, permanent resident also renewable every 5 years.

So... easy to get a visa if you're a highly-skilled migrant. That's not everybody. That's not most people.

As someone in America on the "highly-skilled migrant" visa/green card, I can guarantee you that even that is not straightforward here. It's exactly as stress-inducing and risky-feeling as every other US visa, just with a slightly higher chance of success if you fulfill enough criteria.

So even this is a noteworthy point of distinction between NL and here.

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My flight from New York to KL cost less than my flight from Orlando to NY. Most Malaysians also speak English very well, especially compared to the rest of SE Asia. I have spoken to Americans back home who couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map, and even more who just write it off as a "Muslim country" despite it being secular and very diverse. I would say it has less to do with accessibility, and more to do with…

couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map, and even more who just write it off as a "Muslim country" I'd be very interested in meeting this population that "couldn't even point out Malaysia on a map" but know that it is majority Muslim .

You can thank the American education system and media for that.
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